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Offline Caz.s

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #1 on: 14/06/09, 08:48 »
This is so awful for all parties.

How can mistakes keep happening like this
ME 31unexplained infertility
#1 IVF DEC08 BFN Two embies transferred
#2 FET March 09 BFN One embie out of two embryos survived the thaw
Hysterocopy  June 25th Two fibroids removed
#3 IVF/ICSI Antagonist cycle 10th feb two perfect embryos transfered 8&9 cells BFN

April 10 Split with DP end of tx for me xx

Offline kara76

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #2 on: 14/06/09, 09:41 »
this is my clinic and i have the upmost respect for them, ive had all my treatment there and they are fab.

i think its a shame that with all the wonderful success stoires the media only hook onto the bad ones, i suppose its a way to sell paper. a lot of people do not understand the ivf process itself and this will just make it worst


me 33 dh 31
tcc 11+ years
2x 6 months clomid bfn
2x iui's 05 2xbfn
3xlap jan 06 oct 06 mar 09 laparoscopic bilateral salpingectomy
1xivf low postive 2006 m/c with methotrexate at 9 weeks 2006
2nd full ivf may 07 faint postive then negative (biochemical)
3rd full ivf feb 08 bfn
4th abandoned poor response
3 x fet bfn
amh results-normal range 5 to 15
mar 08 9.2
retest dec 08 11.4
retest jun 09 7.5
endo biospy for uNK cells-6.2 elevated
5th ICSI 6 eggs- 2 day 2 embryos on board with AH, clexane, steriods, gestone, womb relaxant-BFP omg

Tyler May came into our world on the 5th May by emergency c section. she is our sunshine

Offline roze

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #3 on: 14/06/09, 09:43 »
I hate to see these things happen but from a different perspective, its flies just  a little bit in the face of the HFEAs usual 'beware overseas clinics they just don't have the same standards of practice as the UK' mantra. It clearly isn't the case.  In my experience I have been much more confident in the overseas clinics I have been to than either of the three private UK clinics I went to. Mistakes do and will always happen in IVF as they do in most other aspects of medical care and indeed life, but I think its both a risk that people have to accept, but also that it is actually a very rare occurrence given the number of transfers and treatments that actually take place. When we conceived DD my partner was convinced that the clinic had made a mistake, largely because he could not believe that the tx had worked with his swimmers. Fortunately its very apparent that DD not only looks like him, she has so many of his mannerisms that she could not have observed, so they must be inherited.
HAD MY BABIES IN MY LATE FORTIES AND ALL DOING JUST FINE !
TTC for many many years; finally and unbelievably,  success at ISIDA Kiev, Ukraine, BFP 7th October 2006.  Our beautiful Baby Ella arrived June 2007. Failed FET Aug 08 but fresh cycle March 09 gave us non-identical twins due December 09. ISIDA have done wonders for us where all others have failed- Дякую Ukraine!
Small but beautiful twin girls born by c-section 30/11/09, Esther and Frances. We are so very lucky.

Offline Jane D

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #4 on: 14/06/09, 20:44 »
 A very sad story, particularly when you consider that because of the passage of time that it is very likely that the female partner will not be able to try again with her own eggs.  I can't imagine how she must feel at her last chance being taken from her.  I can't imagine how the other woman felt too, being implanted with the wrong embryo.  Thankfully this is exceptionally rare.
Me 37, dh 36
1 dd born 2005.
ttc number 2 since Sep 2006.
June-Nov 2007 6 months x clomid, all bfn
Dec 2007, raised FSH, low ovarian reserve.
Feb 08 - IUI, negative
June 08 - IVF, poor response converted to IUI, negative, end of road for own eggs.
July 2008, starting donor egg IVF route.
DEIVF at Ceram, Jan 2009
13.2.09 BFP - bloods 261.2.
First scan 2.3.09 - I embie, heart beat seen and heard
Second scan 16.4.09 all ok
Third scan 1.6.09 (20 week scan) all ok can now enjoy the next 20 weeks!!
17.10.09 - our baby boy is here!  Our family is complete!!!

Offline kara76

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #5 on: 14/06/09, 20:58 »
thankfully the couple have a child. i have to say im surprised they didn't undertake an ivf cycle in the mean time, i think i would have.

IVF itself can be a devastating experience when it fails and i can see how this would be such a massive shock but like with most of us on here you pick yourself up and try again.

this case is very rare just a shame for all parties involved.
me 33 dh 31
tcc 11+ years
2x 6 months clomid bfn
2x iui's 05 2xbfn
3xlap jan 06 oct 06 mar 09 laparoscopic bilateral salpingectomy
1xivf low postive 2006 m/c with methotrexate at 9 weeks 2006
2nd full ivf may 07 faint postive then negative (biochemical)
3rd full ivf feb 08 bfn
4th abandoned poor response
3 x fet bfn
amh results-normal range 5 to 15
mar 08 9.2
retest dec 08 11.4
retest jun 09 7.5
endo biospy for uNK cells-6.2 elevated
5th ICSI 6 eggs- 2 day 2 embryos on board with AH, clexane, steriods, gestone, womb relaxant-BFP omg

Tyler May came into our world on the 5th May by emergency c section. she is our sunshine

Offline Choice4

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #6 on: 14/06/09, 21:57 »
In my opinion, the lady should have had the baby and handed it to the couple, in that way she would have been a surrogate mum for them as it looks like the couple that owned the embryo have problems concieveing
Instead of aborting the baby.
I heard the couples have been paid a large some of money, but it is not the money, it is the age,egg,sperm, embryo and the womb that is important for the baby to implant

I wish both of them all the luck they need
ME (40), DH 38yrs
Abdominal mymectomy to remove fibriods
1st IVF July 08 Rba Atlanta Bfn
(5embs, all 8cell, all transfered on day 3)
2nd IVF Sirm Dr Sher Oct 08
Fluid in uterine cavity, lining 6mm
Aspirated fluid, Embs frozen,transfer postponed
Had hysteroscopy, and estrogen tablets orally and vaginally.
Lining has improved to 8mm!!!
For immune issues Humaria,Ivig,Intralipids,LIT,Clexaine and steriods
( With Dr Gorgy)
Lining improved to 20mm!!!(with Progesterone and estrogen IM injections)
FET in Sirm Newyork Aug. 09
4 Blasts transfered.
BFP!!!!! EDD 7/5/2010
Baby Girl born 29th April 2010!!!!!

Offline kara76

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #7 on: 14/06/09, 22:24 »
can i please add the lady did NOT have an abortion a pregnancy was prevented from happening
me 33 dh 31
tcc 11+ years
2x 6 months clomid bfn
2x iui's 05 2xbfn
3xlap jan 06 oct 06 mar 09 laparoscopic bilateral salpingectomy
1xivf low postive 2006 m/c with methotrexate at 9 weeks 2006
2nd full ivf may 07 faint postive then negative (biochemical)
3rd full ivf feb 08 bfn
4th abandoned poor response
3 x fet bfn
amh results-normal range 5 to 15
mar 08 9.2
retest dec 08 11.4
retest jun 09 7.5
endo biospy for uNK cells-6.2 elevated
5th ICSI 6 eggs- 2 day 2 embryos on board with AH, clexane, steriods, gestone, womb relaxant-BFP omg

Tyler May came into our world on the 5th May by emergency c section. she is our sunshine

Offline CathB

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #8 on: 15/06/09, 07:23 »
Such an awful thing to have happened. My heart goes out to both couples.

I stupidly read down teh comments after the article - don't do it ladies. There are so many biggots out there, saying mean things and judging those of us unable to conceive naturally, I feel like sitting and crying now, but am at work so will leave it till later.
Me 38 Dh 40.  TTC 9years +
IUI on NHS 04 - BFNs
ICSI Sept 05 - BFN
ICSI Aug 06 - BFN  Eggs not maturing well.
Immunology tests - raised blood clotting strength
ICSI - Xmas 07 Abandoned before ec. Donor eggs being considered but not sure I can give up on my own yet.

2009 - new funding available. BMI falling gradually but now have a  polyp
Feb '10 - Hysteroscopy to remove polyp failed, it's got roots! Jun - polyp gone with meds.
Aug - finally have go ahead for more funded ICSI. One more waiting list to go then Essex & Herts here we come





Offline ♥JJ1♥

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #9 on: 15/06/09, 07:34 »
such a sad story for all involved but how can these things happen, it would be like giving the wrong organ to someone!
41,kd MF low count
1st ICSI LP ^BFP^ Oct 06
no longer a heartbeat@7w6d scan ^angel^ RIP.

#2 ICSI cycle Feb 07- immune issues,abandoned after EC,eggs immature
#3 ICSI Moved to ARGC July 07 BFN
Sept 07 ∆ Asherman's syndrome. 
Hysteroscopic surgery Nov 07
#4th ICSI cycle ARGC 3/08 - SP+IVIG=BFN
 lining causing issues!
#5 DEIVF's @ IVI Barcelona! ET postp'd after EC as lining v thin -16 DE frozen
#6 DEIVF Jan 09 ET canc'd lining probs
#7 DEIVF 31/5/09 11 embryos fertilised but all arrested no ET!!

 #8 DEICSI @CRM 2 great embryos but still BFN

Offline kat79

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #10 on: 15/06/09, 11:36 »
An extremely sad story - traumatic for the couple whose embryo was lost, and for the lady who thought that she was now "pregnant" (if only for a day) with her own child.

Kat
Me - 30, all tests ok. DH - 36, leukaemia at 18 so frozen swimmers only.

1st go at IVF/ICSI. D-Reg Buserelin 5th March 2009. Baseline scan and stims 18th March 2009. EC 31st March, ET 3rd April - please stay little ones. OMG!!! BFP!!!! First scan 7+4 11th May - Twins!!! 10 June - 12w+2 all good with twin beans! Please please stay my little ones x


Offline Tina xx

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #11 on: 15/06/09, 11:38 »
In my opinion, the lady should have had the baby and handed it to the couple, in that way she would have been a surrogate mum for them as it looks like the couple that owned the embryo have problems concieveing
Instead of aborting the baby.
I heard the couples have been paid a large some of money, but it is not the money, it is the age,egg,sperm, embryo and the womb that is important for the baby to implant

I wish both of them all the luck they need

I'm sorry, but I had to say that I disagreed with your comment hun. I can understand your feelings, but the second lady obviously has fertility issues (either herself or her partner) or she wouldn't have been having IVF herself. I think it would have been unfair on her to have to continue and possibly become pregnant. I don't what I would have done in her shoes, but we need to think, would we have been able to carry on with the pregnancy and then hand the baby over to its biological parents? I know that I wouldn't be able to. I agree with you in wishing both parties all the luck on their journey to become parents and hope that one day, the pain they all feel isn't too bad (I know that it's something that I couldn't get over/forget) Hope that I haven't offended you  ^hugme^ ^hugme^

Tina xx
Me 32 (PCOS) DH 36, TTC No 2 since March 2000. DS 11, told he is our little miracle (not so little now). I've had a few attempts at Clomid - BFNs. Now on 1500mg. Hycosy done on the 7/10/09. Tubes all clear. Hysteroscopy, Laparoscopy and Ovarian Drilling done on 15/06/10. TTC natuarlly, next appointment in 6 months and then Clomid if nothing happens.





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Offline ♥Saila♥

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #12 on: 15/06/09, 13:09 »
In my opinion, the lady should have had the baby and handed it to the couple, in that way she would have been a surrogate mum for them as it looks like the couple that owned the embryo have problems concieveing
Instead of aborting the baby.
I heard the couples have been paid a large some of money, but it is not the money, it is the age,egg,sperm, embryo and the womb that is important for the baby to implant

I wish both of them all the luck they need

I'm sorry, but I had to say that I disagreed with your comment hun. I can understand your feelings, but the second lady obviously has fertility issues (either herself or her partner) or she wouldn't have been having IVF herself. I think it would have been unfair on her to have to continue and possibly become pregnant. I don't what I would have done in her shoes, but we need to think, would we have been able to carry on with the pregnancy and then hand the baby over to its biological parents? I know that I wouldn't be able to. I agree with you in wishing both parties all the luck on their journey to become parents and hope that one day, the pain they all feel isn't too bad (I know that it's something that I couldn't get over/forget) Hope that I haven't offended you  ^hugme^ ^hugme^

Tina xx

Personally, I'd of carried on with the pregnancy and handed the baby over. Mainly because I'd of wanted the other woman to do it for me if the situation was reversed. Yes it was a terrible situation, but the child in question deserved a chance.

This is just my opinion

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Offline Cozy

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #13 on: 15/06/09, 13:24 »
Theres no way I could have carried on with the pregnancy and then handed it over.. no way at all. It would be pure torture for me.

I think its dreadful for all parties concerned but personally if I had been the recipient of the embryo I would also have asked for the morning after pill to prevent the pregnancy occuring, I think it would be the best thing all round.

Also, if I had been the other couple I would probably had the free go at IVF - once I had calmed down! Though I really dont know how I would feel or react if I'd had the free go and been told that my eggs were not good enough or there was some other reason why I couldnt have IVF with my own eggs and needed to have donor eggs - that really would be rubbing salt in the wounds.

Even though these things are rare, procedures need to be looked at and some improvements made at some clinics. no one should have to go through this or anything similar. IVF can be stressful enough as it is

Cozy

TTC 8 yrs. IVF & IUI cycles done at ARGC 2006/07. Care M/cr 2008 - BFN. 
Uterine biopsy done 2007 – high uNK cells / CD57 (8.3%).
DEIVF Reprofit June 2009 - BFN.
Immunological tests redone by Dr Gorgy 2009. Had Hysteroscopy, IVIg, Intralipids, Humira and 2 x donor LIT prior to cycle.
DEIVF Reprofit December 2009 - BFP 27/12.
1st b-HCG 127.6 -10dp5dt. 2nd b-HCG 311.3 - 12dp5dt
1st scan 12/1 @ 6 +1 wks.  4mm
2nd scan 26/1 @ 8wks. 14mm
3rd scan 8/2 @ 10 wks. 30mm
4th scan 22/2 @ 12 wks. 58mm
Nuchal scan 1/3 @ 13 Wks - All good. 71mm
6th scan 26/4 @ 21 wks - 20cm
7th scan 14/6 @ 28 wks
 

Offline Glitter

Re: Embryo Given To Wrong Woman
« Reply #14 on: 15/06/09, 13:32 »
I understand procedures were in place however not followed at that one point in time when two people were required to check, not just the one.  I saw the BBC report who had an embryologist from UCL on there who was very good and what he said is true - when humans are involved, then mistakes can be made.  The question was put to him about electronic tagging of the dishes etc - he countered that by saying that humans would have to put the tags on and therefore the same mistake could be made. 

On the flip side, no-one will ever know if the embryo was truly viable and would lead to a live birth although I agree she should have been given every chance of it working which will not now happen if it was the only survivor.

It must be horrible for both the families concerned however we are only human and how many of us have had a bad day at the office? I think that once I had calmed down, I think I would be asking for not one free repeat but as many as I wanted to get viable embryos.




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