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Thanks HoneyBee - for the lowdown on the proc helps to know whats involved.
Yeah sadly over 40+ Lucie .Ā Hope you are both keeping well.
Hello to everyone - in work early trying to catch up.
AFM - Eva confirmed we are ok op Tue, then HKS on Wed.Ā So just looking to book 3 night city break to Prague (No flights to Brno).Ā work v busy and could do without but also would prefer to get below checked out before FET.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Girls, my lining only went up to 4.1 from 3.4 on Monday! What do I do?Egg collection is only about three days away!!! I need advice FAST! There has to be SOMETHING I can do!!!! Can I take the male form of Viagra?? Am I out Cos I would still be major bummed if we had to freeze everything and had nothing for transfer!!
Oh no Tara!! I'm sorry to hear that. The male form of viagra won't work it has to be vaginal pessaries and it would be too late anyway now hun. When is your trigger? If I'm totally honest with you there's no way I would consider a transfer with a lining that thin. I know a fet is so disappointing but you could go back ASAP and you know your embies would be safely frozen away. You don't want to waste a potentially good embryo if it doesn't have a decent chance of working. Next time you could just concentrate on getting the lining nice and thick with estrogen and viagraĀ
Lolly - ive never done the acupuncture, im not sure i really think it makes any difference but i guess thats all down to the individual. I guess if your stressed and you (or your surro) find accupuncture relaxing then it could help but i think i can relax n chill out without paying another 100 euro n having needles stuck in meĀ
Sorry to hear your news Tara - hope you decide whatever is the best for you both.
Lolly - Lucie was very good and i felt totally relaxed - although i dont think will have in Nov FET due to timing and us going to Berlin once I'm pupo and not 100% convinced.
Lolly, I had acupuncture on the last 3 transfers and got a bfp two times out of three. There are some studies out there which show it increases implantation levels. I can't say I'm overly convinced either way really and whilst it is kind of relaxing it doesn't really do a lot for me but I wanted to try everything I possibly could so I did it anyway.
Ooh, new thread! We certainly know how to chat, eh girls?! I just looked back at my bookmarks and I first joined in the thread on 'part 3' lol actually, don't know whether to laugh or cryĀ
Tara - oh no!!! OK, this is tough but as the others' have said...it would be better to wait and go for an FET than to risk implantation not happening as a result. There are studies out there that say the body is in a better place when doing FET, getting the stimming drugs out of the system etc... I know it's not an easy decision when you have to consider time off work/travel/money etc... but try and think about it in the long run. If you go for it and it doesn't work, you would feel pretty rubbish. Sending you massive hugs sweetieĀ
Lolly - Hi sweetness, eek - not long for you again, keeping everything crossed your follies/eggs play ball this time around! I can't imagine getting so many, last time for EC I only had 3 follicles at my first scan lol! Re: acupuncture, it certainly helped me to feel calm and I enjoyed it in the UK before I went (almost went to sleep a few times) I had 2 sessions before going for FET but actually in Brno, I didn't find it as calming, the needles seemed to hurt more and I was a bit cold! It might have just been because I felt a bit nervous...I don't know? I think, as Lucie said, for peace of mind it's worth doing. Lucie (acupuncturist) is really lovely.
Ooh RieRie - exciting times!!
Happy Friday everyone. I hope you all have good weekends, whatever's going on in your world right now xx
Girls, I just can't give up yet.Ā I've drinking loads of pomegranate juice here and I have raspberry leaf tea aswell- I know it's late.Ā Q, does anyone know if the raspberry leaf tea CAPSULES are as good as the tea?Ā Co-ordinator was saying they can put me on estrogen after egg collection for lining, will that help?
Tara - ive no idea about the tea/capsules but im not sure if estrogen after collection would work as thats ovulation and progesterone time, i would have thought it would be too late at that pointĀ X
Zph - you can get the student agency bus from prague airport to brno. you can book online in advance. The bus isnt direct so you have to change buses once you get to prague bus station. its about 40 mins from the airport to the bus station, you will then have about 50 mins wait for the brno bus which then takes 2.5hrs to get to brno x
Just realised you only wanted to go to pragueĀ i could of just said.......you get get the student agency bus
taraeob - I know how you feel my cycle 4 was cancelled due to poor response and lining being 5.1 its devastating but I have used provanova estrogen tablets on the strongest dose 8mgs from egg collection on cycle 3 and got a BFP, it was chemical but my lining went up to 9.1 from 6ish in 5 days so you could try it, the only thing I would say is ask your doc about the trigger I have heard that went you trigger one layer of your lining becomes tougher to penetrate after trigger, not sure if that's right as there is soooooo much to google and read when your in a panic like this, so check everything and if you feel you want to then give it a go, but ask them about it on my 5th cycle over there my lining was 6mm and they said go ahead they never said what it went up to in the end but had another chemical so good luck pickle xx
Tara, it's really important for your lining to be over 8mm by trigger to give you the best chance. There's no point trying to thicken it after trigger as the lining changes and if it does get thicker it will just be down to fluid released from the glands and embryos can't implant in fluid. The base layer which is the important bit won't thicken after trigger as that's when the progesterone starts to be released which changes the lining. I assume you will be triggering tomorrow or Sunday so there really is no way to get the lining to grow that much in 1 or 2 days. This is one of the downsides of clomid and why I asked for femara instead although I still struggled even on that which is why I then went on the viagra as well. I know it's really disappointing but please don't risk an embryo hun like somebody else said if it ends in bfn which is the likely outcome with the lining that thin you are going to be devastated. Even if you did get a bfp it's unlikely the lining would be able to support a pregnancy and could end in chemical or miscarriage. It's just not worth the risk for the sake of a month or two.
Hmmm hows about starting the estrogen at trigger rather than at collection - would that work? The follies would already be a decent size and it would give an extra day or so to thicken the lining before ec/ovulation/progesterone?? No idea if thats a good or bad thing to try tho as i guess it might damage any eggs
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