BFP - Due date January / February 2016

[Nahla]

bubbles, I got a no result first time round too. they took another blood sample and as later in pregnancy there is more DNA, the next time the result was fine. so just do it again! never ever would I consider an amnio! NT sounds perfect and if I remember right there was nothing else abnormal in the scan right?

dumbwing: angel care was good for my mind. but I forgot quite often to switch it off, took LO out and alarm went off... never had a real alarm though. second time round I think I wont use it again.. esp. as Yi plan to let the
twins sleep together and this is already prevention... and with 2 its useless anyway. and I am much calmer right now

deedee: I am definitely not getting any vaccine during pregnancy... never had flu jab and never got flu. but heard of some people who got seriously ill after having vaccine

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[loulu28]

ooh, that's interesting about the cot bumpers being illegal in US, I'd already decided against them but interesting to hear they are thought to be dangerous enough to ban.

There's an item here on NT scans: http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a544491/nuchal-translucency-nt-scan
I still think your number suggests a good outcome Bubbles.

"What if I have a high risk of Down's syndrome?

Most women given a high risk (one in 150 or less) will go on to have a baby without Down's. Even with a risk as high as one in five, there’s a four out of five chance that your baby doesn't have Down's. Nevertheless, once your pregnancy has been labelled high-risk, it's natural to feel anxious and unsure of what to do. "

http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a544491/nuchal-translucency-nt-scan#ixzz3kYNDiaSi

Nahla, that's interesting about jabs whilst pregnant. I've never had a flu jab either and wouldn't have considered it but for the mentions here... still on the 'no' side. Here in Scotland, possibly whole of UK, there's a new Meningitis B vaccine being offered to new-borns. I've always been of the opinion that babies and children get all vaccines going, just as i did...

Brrrrr 10*C this morning !

(wake up...i'm bored !)

:-)

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[Dragonfly32]

Good Morning everyone

Conversation on the flu jabs/whooping cough vaccine...I will definitely be having the whooping cough vaccine at 28weeks. I haven't been offered the flu jab yet (or ever before) but I expect I will take it. Having had this horrendous virus for the last 5/6 weeks just the idea of flu exhausts me, so even if it protects me against 40% of the strains my take is it is probably better than being protected from none. However, I haven't fully looked into it and I may just wait until a few weeks after it is out so they can test it on everyone else first haha! I know vaccines have always split opinions so I think it's just one of those things people have to go with what they think

Loulu - it is cold down south as well but I love the cold, bright mornings. I am a bit jealous of you in Aberdeen, I think it's a lovely city!

Bubbles - so sorry to hear about your no result, good luck with whatever you decide to do next xx

AFM - I had my consultant appointment yesterday. Another lovely person which is so refreshing. It turns out I was referred due to a history of depression/anxiety (I was convinced it was my history of back problems). They seem to have a good handle on things. I had a bit of an off weekend where I did feel pretty horrendous again but I think luckily it was just a blip. I did get to have a little listen of the heart beat at the appointment which is always lovely next appointment at 32 weeks!
I am starting to have real issues with my sciatica especially in the evening I think my body gives up I seem to be only able to stand or lie still without pain, physio appointment tomorrow so hoping that will help things.

Has anyone started getting pelvic pain? I have started getting it in the lower pelvis almost feels like a bruising pain. Excellent timing, another thing to throw at the physio tomorrow I know these things are all part and parcel of pregnancy and I don't want to complain too much, but I would rather do as much as I can to help it, I imagine these problems get worse with weight gain!

[loulu28]

:-)
it wasn't cold for long, i put the central heating on and then lit a fire. Both dogs passed out and i had a snooze for an hour. They are saying it is going to be a really hard winter this year...no fun when horses need water etc. Oh well, it will be the best winter ever, hopefully, come January :-)

Working offshore, I see (well used to) a lot of people who travel in to Aberdeen just to catch a helicopter offshore, they refer to it as Aberdoom because of the grey buildings. Personally, having grown up in a red brick town, I see the sparkles in the grey granite: lovely !

Dragon, keeping moving is probably the key. I fell off a horse about 4 years ago now and have back issues too... keep moving and cake :-)

xx

[10fingersand10toes crossed]

Good Morning Ladies, hope you are all well. Struggling to keep up so will do my best at personals 

Pumpkin thanks for the congrats 

Nahla have a lovely break. I know what you mean about needing one, I think we are going to try to get to Cornwall for a few days in a week or two. I agree on the body knowing what it needs theory and I also crave salty foods but have gone off sweet, with the exception of the odd 'freddo' for a taste of chocolate (which hardly counts as its so small  )

Acid Reflux sounds awful ladies, I'm glad I haven't been graced with that symptom (yet..?)

Swissbump I'm glad DH isn't going now, I would've felt the same. After everything you've been through I can imagine even the thought of coping alone was stressful 

DeeDee - I had the whooping cough and flu jab when pregnant with DS last year & all fine, but its a personal choice I think as most things are with pregnancy/parenting I think you just go with your gut

2buttons - hope your appointment goes well today. £20k for a Cinderella cot? Bargain!! 

Dumbwing - hope you're feeling better today and you enjoy your antenatal class tonight

Kalm - re the house move, I meant that the show house (or another plot we might look at) are not ready until between Jan and March so yeah, total due date clash! Our house is almost ready to put on the market. Am I being naïve thinking I could get most of the packing and sorting done pre-Christmas then just get other people to do the actual moving if we were to go for it?! The desire to be in a new home at the moment wins out over the thought of all the stress being heavily pregnant  How did your appointment go?

Snowy sorry don't have any advise on BP or stretch mark cream. I think I used it about twice at the start last time (Palmers cocoa butter stuff) but I'm a bit rubbish with moisturising anyway so it didn't last! I do think stretch marks are genetic based on a totally unscientific survey of asking my friends!

Bubbles sorry to hear about the no result, how frustrating! As the others have said, I guess it comes down to decision points later down the line and whether it'll make a difference for you or whether its more about wanting to know. Thinking of you x

Gruffan - hope you manage to escape the cold, and yay to having some visitors to help. I totally get that. Hope you get some rest x

Dragon - unfortunately yes, I have started with pelvic pain  The way I described it last time was like being kicked in the pubic bone, is it that kind of feeling? It started fairly late on last time, and I did have some physio which helped me understand what would make it worse - the way she described it was having to take the pressure off as much as possible to save up 'points' to do stuff like go for walks etc. So if it does turn out to be PGP/SPD its all about management I think rather than cure  I went for a walk yesterday with the dog in a country park, so uneven ground and I felt the pain start last night  I'll be going back to an osteopath I saw for my back after my labour, she is really good and specialises in treating pregnant women so I am hoping she can help. Maybe investigate an osteopath too if physio doesn't help with it? I know after my back pain, I saw a physio for 4 months without much improvement then saw the osteopath and within 2 or 3 treatments I felt so much better. I hope its just a little grumble for you rather than the start of something x (I agree with LouLou, cake will also help)

LouLou sounds very cold. I hate being cold and often sneak the heating on when DP isn't looking. Another reason to move to a new house I'm thinking, no Victorian floorboard draughts and lots of insulation!

AFM - not been sick for a few days and nausea is definitely better. Could this be the start of a breakthough? Appetite still not back though!  Have great days all x

[Dragonfly32]

Loulu - thanks, I do find getting moving eventually eases the back, I walk lots with work so I have no choice but to keep going at the moment I didn't think I would like Aberdeen, but have been up three times (all at Christmas) and have loved it every time. My dh used to live up there and he speaks very highly of it too.

10fingers - thanks for the advice, I really hope the pelvic pain is just a niggle that will ease. I am aware the back will probably be bad for awhile, I have struggled with back injuries from various sports from the age of 13 so am quite used to dealing with that, however tedious it is! The pelvic pain was a bit of a shock the other day, it is a bizarre feeling!

Hope everyone has a lovely day. xx

[2Buttons]

Hi ladies, I'm in awe of those of you managing to do personals there are so many of us 

Bubbles, so annoying to be told a no result - they ought to have told u that sooner, you can just repeat it if you want to 

10fingers, if they're going to move it, might as well let them pack it  I'm planning on putting our house on the market in February and move late summer - roll on chaos 

Sorry for those with pelvic pain, my bezzie was on crutches 3rd tri with her firstborn, but not her second  Hope yours is brief in comparison 

Swiss bump, glad dh saw the light, else could you get yer mum in 

Snowy, I haven't done anything about stretch mark prevention, hopefully won't come back to haunt me 

I had heartburn issues in first tri, just took gaviscon everywhere and only drank water.

Yes, loulu, roll on Christmas, let it be frosty and white  I'm looking forward to Xmas markets 

AFM I was stressing all evening and night about the midwife today, but it's gone alright, I chickened out on the Doppler (the stress of not hearing hb and then dragging dh out of work for a scan would be too much) so I got her to measure my belly instead (apparently it's not all chips n pizza  ) and its spot on, so enough reassurance for now, just for some flutters in a fortnight or so.

Hello to Kalm, mini, Nahla, dumbwing, Deedee, pumpkin, grey, gruffan, moragob and everyone else 

[swissbump]

Thanks for all the messages of support. 8 years as an expat but the problem is that most close friends that we could ask to babysit are going through ivf or already have kids etc, too busy.

My Mum passed away 9 years ago, I just wish I could ring her and book a flight for her to come over to Switzerland when number 2 arrives!

[dumbwing07]

gruffan - im much better today thanks hun, hope you too feel better and have a fab time away! So nice you can feel them kicking, its wonderful isnt it. Makes me smile so much when he kicks xx

Nahla - probably wont bother then, ill just get a normal monitor I think, im gonna have a read of some reviews. Hope all is well with you xx

Dragonfly32 - im gonna get the jabs too! So glad you had a good appointment with the consultant. I dont have any pelvic pain as yet but do get a niggly pain like someone poking me in the belly button, it may just be when baby is moving around near there. Hope your ok xx

10fingers - thanks hun im really looking forward to it and yes im fine today phew! I was sick for 16 weeks so i hope your sickness subsides soon! Hope your ok xx

2Buttons - glad you had a good appointment at the midwives and I too cant wait for xmas, although i wish baby was due before but at least he will come just after if hes on time! Hope you are well xx

swissbump - cant imagine not having mum so loads of love to you! xx

Cant wait for antenatal at 6.30pm, know I keep going on about it but im really looking forward to doing something baby related! Weather is terrible raining and cold here winter is on its way! Roll on mat leave, i go 30th november for 3 weeks hol then mat leave starts officially on 21st dec xxxx

[cookson17]

Hi Ladies,

Just wanted to say I have awful heartburn and the only thing that works is Gaviscon!!

Have had terrible lower back pains the last few days which I hope is normal - sadly can only take paracetamol which doesn't help!!

Hope everyone Ok xx