Emjyjk - so sorry to hear about your loss. That is just heartbreaking for you. I think that fertility treatments is a numbers game for many of us, and I hope that proves true for you with your 2 frozen babes. My second child in due in Oct but to get my two children will have taken 3 rounds of IUI, one natural IVF, one donor IVF, one miscarriage from natural pregnancy, one termintation of a natural preganancy due to Downs. (over a 9 year period) We have walked a long and painful, as well as expensive road . . .. We gave up several times, but the pull of another child kept us trying again. Keep at it and I will be hoping to see another BFP for you in the near future that sticks.