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Offline Honeybee17

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Lister Cycle Chat - Part 11
« Reply #150 on: 13/08/18, 15:32 »
Hi everyone,
I can't speak for EC but I had my first transfer on a Sunday. It was quiet but there didn't seem to be any hesitation about doing it.
Have a good day!

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    « Reply #151 on: 20/08/18, 16:36 »
    Good afternoon ladies!

    I hope you donít mind me joining you lovely lot?  Iíve been quietly loitering on this thread for a couple of weeks now deciding whether I wanted to join a group for this cycle or not as I feel so nervous this time around.  Turns out I really need some others in the same boat to keep me sane!

    Little brief on me:
    Infertility due to hubby having azoospermia.  Iím ďOKĒ apart from some endometrioses.
    1st IVF was in Sep 2014 and resulted in my gorgeous little one.  Due to various reasons we did not try for a sibling until last year- Nov 2017.  Sadly despite a good fertilisation rate (5 from 6 collected) and all embies still going strong at day 3 by day 5 we only had 2 questionables left so they pushed to day 6 which gave us an average quality blast which was transferred.  Of course that resulted in a BFN.  It consumed me having the failure, partly because I knew we would could only do it one more time, and has taken a few months to pick myself up and jump back on the TX wagon ! 

    So this is it- our last chance for a sibling! We just canít afford anything more than this! 

    I am on exactly the same protocol as before and started my Suprecur D/R injections 9 days ago on 11/08/18 after having the lovely scratch done 09/08/18.  I had the scratch done on both previous cycles so seeing as the 1st worked I feel itís something I have to do lol!
    So today is CD1, I was SO relieved that she arrived on time!  Called the clinic and have my baseline booked for Wednesday morning  I hate the baseline- itís gross but at the same time I love it as it means starting stimms!  All being well and based on my previous 9-10 days stimming I am estimating that collection will be either Sat 1st or Sun 2nd Sept. 

    Trying so hard to eat well but coffee is my vice.  Iím down to just 1 caffeienated a day now but I know that I should quit that too!  Taking the usual pregnacare conception and omega 3 as well as b-vit complex, co-q10 and líarginine.  Whether the last 2 have much influence I donít know, my consultant believes its all anecdotal but I feel like iím doing something!  Having a small glass of Pom juice daily and already doing my brazil nutsx6 too.  Oh and a bottle of Lucozade Sport lite a day.  Eating copious amounts of sweet potato and steamed salmon.  ANYTHING to make this cycle work!

    Hope you are all well?  Anyone else looking at similar dates to mine? 

    Sorry for the long intro!


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    « Reply #152 on: 22/08/18, 11:00 »
    Hi everyone

    Myself and my partner have been looking around and we think we are going to cycle with Lister. I am 25 and my partner 29 who originally had poor morphology 0% and low sperm count 1.4 million - however with changes to diet, stopping hot baths and taking Fertilsan M he has managed to get his morphology up to 3.5% and sperm count to 6 million so we still need to go down the IVF with ICSI route. We have identified no issues with myself.

    I was wandering what all your experiences were of Lister. One thing that concerns us is the funds, and whether we take the risk with a programme using Access Fertility or taking the risk because of our age and trying just the one cycle and saving us thousands. :\

    Their success rates are above the national average and there seems to be many positive review. We are overseas so may be more difficult for us, but we could travel to gatwick and train there which takes about 30 mins. Does anyone know if they are happy us having scans at home and then them sending the results to them.

    Thanks in advance.

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    « Reply #153 on: 24/08/18, 09:47 »
    Hi Pnut Butter and welcome to the thread :-) I love your username - although it's making me crave Reese's peanut butter cups which are currently strictly not allowed ;D !!

    Great news that you have already made great progress with your partners morphology. Every improvement is a step in the right direction. If you click on my username and then 'show posts' you should be able to find a post I made on this thread a couple of weeks or so ago about my experiences of cycling with the Lister and also using access fertility.

    You have age on your side, and there seem to be plenty of couples who just need a little bit of help and have success first time around, however even for younger couples it's not at all unusual to still need a couple of attempts as it's impossible to know how your body will respond to particular drugs.  Sometimes the first cycle is a bit of a learning exercise for the consultants. At your age the offer is quite different from Access Fertility as I think they offer some kind of refund scheme for 2/3 cycles and not sure what the pricing is for comparative purposes.

    What I would say is this. I believe that if you do everything direct with the Lister you will pay for every blood test, blastocyst culture, freezing any embryos not transferred, then pay individually again for every frozen transfer and keep on paying bills and never knowing when it's going to end can be quite stressful in itself. Whereas with Access Fertility, depending on the nature of the offer of course, you know that you're paying for a complete package with all the blood tests, culturing, multiple frozen transfers, etc. for a fixed fee and all you need to pay on top is the drugs.  The other benefit of Access is that if you sign up for multiple cycles, it feels like it takes some of the pressure off the first cycle as you know you have already made plans for next time around. Everyone is different but for me, the actual IVF process isn't the tough bit, it's the emotional rollercoaster and trying to make rationale decisions when you're in an emotional state. I think for a lot of people one of the most difficult things is deciding the next best step if you don't unortunately get the result you're hoping for.  If the decision is already made, it just takes that pressure away.

    It's a tough one though as it is such a big investment and you have the additional trvale costs too.  With regard to the Lister accepting scans made elsewhere, I'm afraid I couldn't really comment on that but if you phone the clinic they may have a formal position on this and be able to give you a response straight away.

    I wish you all the best with whatever you decide!



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    « Reply #154 on: 24/08/18, 13:21 »
    Hi HoneyBee17

    Thanks  ;D I just loooove peanut butter!

    Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to me - very helpful indeed! I think I agree with you there about the emotional side of things and takes the pressure off if you know you have already paid for a 2nd or 3rd cycle. To be honest with you I think even if we were successful first time we wouldn't worry about the money at that time because we would have a beautiful baby hopefully!

    I see you are planning or have proceeded with your next cycle. Hope this all works out for you both!  ^goodluck^


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    « Reply #155 on: 3/09/18, 18:02 »
    Hi Ladies!

    Hope you all had a great weekend and that your cycles are progressing well. I just wondered if you can help me with a quick question please? For anyone cycling at the lister currently, what time of day are they calling you with your blood results please?

    I had my baseline scan last Tuesday and by shortly before 5 I hadnít heard from anyone so sent an email to the nurses and left a vm and someone called me back at 1715. I was never sure if they called because they picked up my message or just because they were running a bit behind. One week on, today I had my first scan since starting stims, they said they would call with blood results this afternoon and at almost 1800 Iím still waiting.

    The last time I cycled was Jan. Iím not sure whether something has changed, whether Iím just unlucky this has happened twice in a row or whether this is the new normal! Can anyone help please?

    Thank you!! Pls excuse typos - Iím on my phone!

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    « Reply #156 on: 3/09/18, 18:20 »
    Hi Honeybee17

    I have come online in hope of finding same info! Had my baseline today and they found a cyst. I havenít heard back yet to hear if I should start stims or not. Really frustrating!

    Hope they call us both soon xx

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    « Reply #157 on: 3/09/18, 18:45 »
    Honeybee17 - unless things have changed I thought they only called you if you needed to increase/decrease dose or add something xxx

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    « Reply #158 on: 3/09/18, 20:44 »
    I had the same thing as Flipsy, only got a phonecall if I needed to change the dose, otherwise just to stick to whatever was on the plan that you're given.

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    « Reply #159 on: 3/09/18, 21:15 »
    Hi Ladies,

    Thank you Flipsy and HannahDaisy. Yes Iíve just cracked on with the same dose as not overly concerned but I do think itís a bit confusing. I do recall last time they said theyíd call if I needed to change sth but last week and this week they said they would call either way. Last week I was in exactly the same position as Lchan in that there was a cyst so the next course of action was unclear and I think itís a bit naughty that theyíre leaving people hanging overnight if theyíve said theyíll call. Iím sure itís maybe just a mix up in processes and maybe the nurses should just be telling us to crack on if we havenít heard anything but there seems to be a bit of a breakdown in communication somewhere  :( Iíll call the in the morning.

    Thanks again everyone - I appreciate the speedy responses x