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Offline redrose1

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« Reply #2200 on: 13/03/20, 14:42 »
Hello ladies !this is me whom Cris was talking about canceling cycle.I was trying to login from yesterday but unfortunately couldnít But was reading....Small introduction of myself did 4 ivf but no positive results so decided to go to Europe for donor treatment.Yesterday got email from clinic for cancelling the cycle.
But today I went for lining check as planned it was .56 triple layer.I started estrace on 3 March and today is 11th day .My dr here saw the results and recommended giving few more days for the lining to thicken some more before starting progesterone.,even repeat lining  check on 17 th again.
But dr in zlin told me to start progesterone from tomorrow.I Even couldnít understand the protocol which they send ,trying to be in touch with them.I donít have progesterone in hand.What you people think of lining and now I am confused about further steps.They will freeze the eggs which I am not happy about it.

Thanks Cris hope you and baby doing well !!

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    Offline Flower72

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    « Reply #2201 on: 13/03/20, 16:12 »
    Hi Redrose
    I'm sorry to hear that you had to cancel your cycle too. I had an FET scheduled on March 18th and I had to cancel it too.

    The medication protocols for frozen and fresh transfers are same, I have done both at Zlin. Even you are canceling your cycle, you can't stop your medication right away. You need to continue taking the same amount of estrogen and lower dosage of progesterone for 10 days.

    The protocol I have is:
    Estrimax thl.(estrogren) 2mg three times a day
    Utrogestan tbl. (progesterone) 100mg vaginally 2 tablets each day, twice....use 4 total each day
    Then you can safely stop the medication and you will have a bleed in 3-4 days

    It's better to start taking birth control bills once you have the bleed so you can manage the next cycle better.

    Hope this helps.

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    « Reply #2202 on: 13/03/20, 20:11 »
    Hi red rose, yes as flower has said you will need to add in progesterone for at least 10 days to get a bleed.
    I would not be happy with frozen eggs at all unles they offer you a heavy discount, even then I wouldnít be happy, Iím not an advocate of frozen eggs, if you have paid for a fresh egg cycle then thatís what you should get, they could offer those frozen eggs to someone else who wants them or turn them into donated embryos, so they wouldnít be wasted.
    The reason why the zlin dr said for you to start progesterone now is because they have cancelled your cycle so you donít need to keep on. Your lining is quite thin, and you would have neede extra estrogen to thicken it up, so for your next cycle Iím sure you will be on four tablets per day instead of 3, I think they like the lining to be at least 7 mm before starting progesterone. The pro tool s are very simple and easy to follow,Mehta didnít you understand about them, so we can help for the next cycle?

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    « Reply #2203 on: 13/03/20, 21:06 »
    Thanks ladies for your quick response yeah got the email from the clinic they are okay if my dr in Canada want me to continue with estrace and check my lining again on 17 th then I should start progesterone.Now I understand the protocol .But I am surprised how come my lining is not 7-8 till now or itís too early.i never had lining problem .In the month of April last year my dr did a mock cycle and without any medication my lining was.8 on 12th day of my cycle.I had hysteroscopy in month of May to remove fibroid though it was very tiny one.Still I had 2 very tiny one I think intramural fibroids which my doctor is not worried about according to him it will not interfere with implantation.

    Flower you and me in same boat but I think it happens for good as recent situation is very bad what if we go and struck.Moreover they are saying pregnant women should be more careful.

    Stacey I spoke to clinic about fresh transfer they are happy to provide me same donor again but time will tell.I donít know this coming Thursday is retrieval so what they will do. I asked my doctor in Canada he said here we donít have problems with frozen eggs but I was wondering itís the way they freeze in Europe thatís the reason you are not happy.

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    « Reply #2204 on: 13/03/20, 21:16 »
    No the way they freeze them in Europe is great, I personally donít like them because it doesnít have as good success rate, one reason being is an egg is only one cell, so there is no room for damage, once that one cell is damaged thatís it, itís not like when an embryo is frozen, if any of the cells are damaged  then there are other ones that will still help the embryo continue to develop, here in Australia we have acces to frozen eggs but the success rates are very low, some ladies not even getting any embryos at all to transfer, freezing is the same here also. So in my opinion if they will give you the same donor then choose that option. Regarding your lining, you will have been down regulated so your body isnít producing any hormones at all, we all respond to estrogen differently, your body either needs more estrogen or a bit longer on it. I would probably take the more estrogen approach. One xtra pill should make a difference. I was on 4, but I will need more now as I donít have periods anymore so donít produce estrogen and my body isnít responding as well as it used it, it used to be around 9-10 at the lining scan now itís hovering around 7 with the same amount of estrogen. Hope that helps.

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    « Reply #2205 on: 13/03/20, 21:36 »
    Redrose, I'm glad that you were able to communicate with the clinic. Can you get progesterone from your local doctor?

    Even if we plan to go to Zlin, there is no way we can get there. It seems that the Czech Republic is closing its doors. Here is what they are doing/will do:

    1. state of emergency for 30 days

    2. border-crossing closes between Germany and also between Austria

    3. All restaurants must close at 8 pm and refreshments are all banned in shopping malls

    4.international passenger transport is also banned

    5. international public transport vehicles with more than nine seats will be banned from crossing the border

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    « Reply #2206 on: 14/03/20, 04:10 »
    Flower I am very blessed I got this wonderful doctor he still considered me as his patient and responsibility.Cris also have same doctor.
    Imagine when he saw my lining report today he himself recommended me to do another ultrasound on 17 th and then they will give me progesterone after that.Probably it will be like a mock cycle now.Without his help couldnít take such a big decision going outside Canada. I am 45 and soon turning 46 so he only suggested me I need younger donor  (eggs)..Happily married 20 years looking forward to get pregnant with one healthy baby ,just praying this will work.My general GP and even gynaecologist not ready to write any medication.They give different excuses.

    Stacey you are right fresh cycle have more success then frozen and this is a frozen eggs not embryo already told the clinic about that even they have my deposit and okay with that.


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    « Reply #2207 on: 14/03/20, 10:50 »
    Hi ladies,

    Firstly CONGRATS cris!!! Was looking for this!!! Gorgeous name, I hope you are both settling with him and getting to know his temperament!! I love it when people have babies on this thread as itís just extra special, makes me emotional!!

    Iíve been stalking ladies, I havenít forgot about you ☺️ Such a bummer about cancelled cycles. Iím gutted for you all but I do believe itís best. Me and mrjk are going shopping tomorrow for tinned/dry food in 4 supermarkets as the shelves are bare. It really is like preparing for a lock down in houses for up to 4 weeks in the uk. Something as serious as that is deffo worth the cancel, imagine if you caught it whilst pregnant - no one knows how it would affect the baby etc itís just such a risk to take but itís the sensible thing to do  ^hugme^ ^hugme^ ^hugme^

    Iím busy as a bee, Hugo is still in the terrible twos and the girls are 5 months and getting more into things than before!!! Very funny though together and love doing row row your boat with each other, they find that hilarious!

    Hello to eoe, I hope everyone is ok, damn this stupid coronavirus  ^bigbad^ ^bigbad^ ^bigbad^

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    « Reply #2208 on: 19/03/20, 02:34 »
    Hi All,

    Cris huge congratulations! You must be in hog heaven.

    Stacey- sorry to hear about your cancelled cycle and hope you can get the doctor to help with the fluid in the tubes; i am so sorry that it seems to be all bad news lately but you did get 4 great embryos.

    Jk- lovely pictures if your beautiful twin girls! So glad to hear everything is well with Hugo and your girls.

    Flower- sorry that your cycle got cancelled. It really sucks to wait for the cycle to start and then have the virus closures in CZ and the US ban affect it all.

    Sun- congratulations on making it to the last trimester- soon you will have your baby in your arms!

    After my cancelled cycle in January, i did a transfer on March 4; i just tested today and it was a bfn.
    I am sad but i am truly starting to believe that the odds are stacked against someone as old as me (i am 49 will be 50 in October:(

    As I had the cysts that made me cancel the cycle in January (because endometrium was not optimal), i did a month of bcp and on day 21 i took the equivalent of the lupron depot shot to shut down my ovaries; i took 4 tablets of estrogen this time per day and my lining got to 9 mm which made me hopeful; TSH on day of transfer went up to 5.55 (not good from 2.12 the month prior); ivf dr at Reprofit put me on Euthyrox 50 mg and today TSH is down to 1.86

    I transferred an expanded blast grade B day 5

    Hope you all are doing well and letís hope we can all who are cycling as soon as we can get our baby wish

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    « Reply #2209 on: 19/03/20, 09:38 »
    Oh mimi   :'( :'( :'( Iím sorry, I did think you were cycling soon. Do you have any embryos left??  ^hugme^

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