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« Reply #240 on: 1/07/19, 11:47 »
Msj I am really so so sorry about your miscarriage!! I really thought we had another natural miracle. Really sorry. I would stop all supplements and give your body a break.

Klik thanks for your pm, much appreciated! Just a few days ago and I hope the little man arrives right on time. Would love to meet him at some stage?

Afm 4th week of jury service and it's taking its toll on me. This is all just awful! I will write more personals soon but it's so difficult on my phone.

 Ive had another bfn. I transfered my second to last (expanded) blastocyst, transfer fell over a weekend so could fly abroad and be back at jury service on the Monday. It's 9dp5dt transfer and bleeding has started and the hpt was negative yesterday and today. How can bleeding just start right bang on time of my 28-day cycle??

I took one crinone. Shouldn't it have stayed away! I am so gutted and sad. My lining was 6.8mm on trigger day and between 7.1 and 8.7mm on egg collection day (but on transfer day it shows as 7mm on my report even though they hasn't even measured it). So for some reason my lining is suddenly fine on natural cycles. Very odd!

The fibroid type thing is right at my lining and squashes it a bit. It has been there ages but the sonographer this time pointed it out and dr Pavel said it's worse if we remove it. I now want another expert looking at it before I transfer my last ever embryo. I am so so so scared and sad!  I cannot get an appointment with this Dr jurkovic till.mid August. Can anyone recommend a specialist that can do an ultrasound sooner than that that's doesn't charge for consultation too? Any ideas what else I can do?.I feel.so lost.

Also anyone still up for meeting up to talk about donor?

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    « Reply #241 on: 1/07/19, 13:18 »
    Hi Briss.

    I had been gathering the needed information for a pretty long period of time. I have found several clinics in Georgia and Ukraine, emailed them to get the details about the procedures, costs, treatment, medical side, medications, conditions, etc. Frankly speaking, I was on the crossroad but after I socialized with the representatives of several clinics I made my decision. I even created a sort of list of the most relevant things for me. It really helped a lot. So I am perfectly happy with the place I have chosen and keep moving ahead with them. Will be keeping my fingers crossed for the best result ever!

    Warmest vibes to you!

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    « Reply #242 on: 1/07/19, 17:21 »
    Catladyttc1 - It sounds like the tandem cycle worked out well in terms of embryo numbers. Can I ask why you didnít freeze the remaining donor embryos? My clinic has very strict guidelines for freezing and I was wondering if it was the same at the clinic youíre using? I very much hope that your pregnancy is progressing and Iím keeping everything crossed.

    Chini - I very much hope that you are able to cycle soon. Youíve mentioned that you have thyroid antibodies. Have you had your tsh levels tested? Mine were above the magic number of 2.5, so I take 50mcg of levothyroxine. I have to say itís made quite a difference to my energy levels and I did achieve implantation last year.

    Helenbeau- I hope youíre doing okay? I was wondering if melatonin made any difference to your OE cycles. Iím considering taking it before my next cycle.

    Odashwood - Iím so sorry to hear your news. I know the frustration and disappointment is sometimes hard to bear, but Iím glad to hear youíre starting to move forward. It will be good to hear how you get on and I very much hope that youíre able to achieve your dream.

    Shadywheat- Thank you for your kind words. Weíre still awaiting results of my Dadís MRI scan, but he is starting immunotherapy next week. The prognosis is very much improved from a few years ago, so we are all feeling hopeful. Iím sorry to hear about your Dad too. It is very difficult to see loved ones struggle mentally and emotionally. I feel the pressure to have a baby when my parents are still well, but DH often reminds me that we are having a baby for us and not anybody else. Iím so happy that you have started to share your news with your loved ones :) Please keep us updated with how you are getting on xx

    Alydreaming - Thank you. Iím very sorry to hear about your fertilisation results. For me I never get eggs from follicles below 16mm and they need to be around 20mm for normal fertilisation.

    Briss - Iím glad youíre back! Iím pleased you like Wimbledon. My DH has a cousin living there and she seems to like it. You and DH have had a lot to deal with and Iím glad youíve been able to come through it all. DH had a wobble when I started stims about whether or not to continue with IVF! The timing was terrible considering we had just paid for 3 rounds and started treatment. The only thing I could do was to listen to his concerns and hope he came around (luckily he did). I think I forget sometimes how hard this process can be for our significant others as they have very limited control of the process.

    MSJ - Iím very sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Itís so very unfair. I scaled back my supplements during the miscarriage, but once it was complete I started everything back up again as I knew I wanted to cycle ASAP. Iíve had cysts from waxing, could it be from that? It might be an idea to get everything checked out once the miscarriage is complete just for your peace of mind.

    Klilk - Good luck for next week (or this week!). Iíll be thinking of you. Please let us know how you get on xx

    Katkat - Iím sorry about your bfn. What is the dosage of progesterone in crinone? Iím very confused about how much I now need after af starting when using progesterone on natural cycles. I think the lining compacts slightly once progesterone starts, so that may be the reason for different measurements. Will you have a follow-up appointment with the clinic before transferring again. Iím just wondering if there is anything that they can do differently? In the meantime please look after yourself xx

    Afm - I have just finished a freeze all cycle. It was much smoother than my last cycle with the follicles growing more evenly and less drop off. I had 5 good sized follicles before EC (although 2 were on the 16mm border) and 4 eggs collected. I had 3 embryos at day 3 and I still have 3 at day 5. 2 are high quality (although I didnít ask for details) and one is not so great. Interestingly, the not so great one cleaved weirdly at day 2, producing 3 cells instead of 2, so at day 3 it was a 9 cell. The clinic are freezing the 2 good ones and will update me on the weird one tomorrow. So I now have a rest month, which I plan to enjoy before I start again in August! I have to say banking is stressful as I was constantly worried if I would have anything to freeze, but it is much less stressful than having the tww added in as well.

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    « Reply #243 on: 1/07/19, 23:11 »
    MSJ - Iím so so sorry for your MC.  :'( It is so unfair to have had your hopes up then to go through the torture of slow rising HCG and then for it to end like that.  Iíve been through it too many times now and would not wish it on anyone!  I am so relieved that it wasnít ectopic.  Iím not sure that 6 weeks is too soon  - my surgeon (who also does IVF) said that most of the BFPs happen within 3 months of the surgery and I got my first BFP 8 weeks after my lap which I miscarried at 8 weeks with the Trisomy 22.
    Itís unbelievable how unsympathetic your boss was to your situation - after all youíve been through.  Good for you to find the strength to say itís enough - hope that you now feel a bit of relief and can look forward to finding a job in a more understanding company.
    For my laparoscopy I had diathermy (which I believe is burnt off) but thankfully the endo was not on my ovaries. I have no endometriomas currently although Iím not sure if they are visible on ultrasound. My pain is back so I would be extremely surprised if my endo has not returned.  I could not get a consultation with my surgeon until end of July so will do another banking cycle while we wait to find out where my endo is at.
    For the 3 ERPCs I have had, we wanted the genetic testing done - 1st MC was a Trisomy 22, 2nd MC there was not enough tissue, and 3rd MC the results were inconclusive and as they said the tissue was likely to be of maternal origin - not sure how they could have missed the fetal tissue.  I was so upset to find out that the 3rd MC results were inconclusive - all the doctors think that my MCs were due to chromosomal abnormalities because we havenít had proof that any of them were normal but I canít believe that all 6 were abnormal.

    Klik - Wow! I canít believe you only have a few days left!! I completely understand about the retreating when youíre so close to the end - something to do with the hormones getting you ready.  You are so thoughtful to have posted. I really have convinced myself that I was triggered too early and the small follicle size was the reason for no fertilisation.  Maybe it is a protection mechanism kicking in as I am going straight into another cycle and I have to have hope that we will get fertilisation this time.  My doctor was the one who mentioned my LH was high but my new doctor said that as long as itís under 10 itís fine. 
    It must be such a relief to be able to have flexibility of when you work.  Itís tough to have a good nightís sleep towards the end and this heat probably hasnít helped much.  I wish you the best of luck and canít wait till you meet your little one!

    Catlady - hope that second line is getting darker and you are holding up through the 2WW. 

    Katkat - sorry to hear of another BFN. Hugs. I really hope the jury service is over soon as it must be mentally draining to have to sit through that every day when you are going through so much in your personal life.  Hang in there!

    Babyhopeful - so good to hear that your freeze all cycle went well - gives me hope as I am about to do a 2nd attempt at freeze all after the 1st one ended disastrously.   I can only dream of getting to 5 day blast!  Enjoy your restful July.

    Hello to everyone else.

    AFM - I have finished progesterone (was on Cyclogest 400mg two times daily) and Iíve been on Everol 100 patches alternate days for 6 days... now waiting for AF to arrive.  Iím hoping that the estrogen and progesterone together have not suppressed me too much - I have heard that it can do that to us DOR ladies.   

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    « Reply #244 on: 2/07/19, 23:37 »
    Thanks KatKat, babyhopeful and Alydreaming for your kind words. I really do appreciate it  and it does help to have the support on this board.

    Katkat - Iím so sorry for your BFN it is really hard to keep going as normal with these setbacks. I hope youíre able to take some time out for yourself to process whatís happened and heal soon. Regarding your bleeding did they check your progesterone level during the 2ww? If you had enough progesterone support you shouldnít really bleed during the 2WW is my understanding. Sorry I donít know of any other specialists...

    Babyhopeful - your freezing round sounds like it went well, 2 blasts to freeze is good going. What sort of protocol are you doing? I agree with freezing cycles you do worry about not having anything to freeze (esp for me doing a natural modified cycle), but itís not as bad as having the horrific 2ww added on as well, so at least it breaks the stress down into manageable chunks I guess?

    Alydreaming- good luck for your upcoming cycle. Which clinic are you with? Agree miscarriage is really hard and it must have been really hard for you to go through this so many times. It seems youíve had quite a few BFPs so maybe endo hasnít impacted your fertility as much as mine? Who is your consultant? I can see youíve had your immunes tested so maybe this will help? I do still have pain on my pelvic sides after surgery so Iím at a bit of a loss what to do. They told me they found quite a lot of endo on the pelvic side walls which they removed so I was hoping the pain would go. I have a follow up tomorrow so will ask them, although I know it can take a while for the pain to subside. I think before I transfer any of my frozen embryos Iíll try and have a free consult with Dr Vidali. He is based in America but specialises in Endo/Adeno and miscarriage. From my research I know thereís increased risk of miscarriage and pregnancy complication with endo/adeno but not sure what can be done, so I guess it wonít hurt if the consultation is free anyway...


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    « Reply #245 on: 3/07/19, 19:21 »
    MSJ - I really do hope the pain subsides soon and I hope they are able to shed some light on it at your follow up meeting. A consultation with Dr Vidali sounds a very good plan before any transfers. Iím considering a hysteroscopy before transferring, although my clinic does keep advising itís not necessary, but weíll see. My protocol was as follows: testogel 3 weeks before stims, applied once daily, then 375iu Bemfola and 0.3ml Suprecur/Burselin from day 3 for 12 days. I used Gonasi 10,000iu for the trigger. I also take a stack of supplements, which Iím happy to share the details of.

    Alydreaming - I will keep my fingers crossed that af arrives soon and that your next cycle is more successful. For me the outcomes of each cycle have varied so thereís always hope that the next one will be better for you.

    Afm - The 3rd embryo didnít make it to freeze. It was graded 3CC and the clinic wonít freeze embryos less than BB. I was a little bit concerned that they hadnít given the embryo a chance of transfer, but it hadnít moved on between days 5 and 6, so letting it go was the right decision. Although thinking about it they wouldnít have known it hadnít moved on until day 6, so maybe next time I will insist on a transfer if itís not good enough for freezing at day 5 (providing I get to day 5 next time!).

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    « Reply #246 on: 4/07/19, 14:55 »
    Decided to share with you some news. The clinic where I am undergoing my treatment decided to increase prices and people who were going to sign their VIP contracts in September will have to pay +15 k euros. I don't think it is fair as people cannot be ready for this. Though on the other hand, I consider this as a good sign and it means that the number of their clients is increasing as well as good results. I saw their post on social media and noticed that the birth rate increases as well.

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    « Reply #247 on: 5/07/19, 19:51 »
    Ladies just a quick one I need your advice, dr jurkovic thought my pain on the left was to do with corpus luteum.  I had a large CL cyst with blood around 3cm. Now the new cycle started but the pain is still there . I was sure it's the CL cyst but just had a scan and it's no longer there. I have a totally normal scan with dominant 14mm follicle on the left. What's causing all the pain? Is it my ovary now struggling so much that any follicle growing is so painful?  I'm tempted to collect this egg but cant imagine how I'm going to go through the egg collection when ovary is so sensitive. Any thoughts? Would you go ahead or wait? To be honest it's been like this for at least 2 months and it's not changing. My estrogen is 1180 which seems ok for a 14 mm follicle for me. I normally trigger when estrogen is above 1500 so probably tomorrow or Sunday.

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    « Reply #248 on: 7/07/19, 09:55 »
    Hey briss I don't think that the pain is from growing a follicle, I can't imagine why they would be. If you had a lot of egg collections on the left I'd say that is the cause. But you've just had a couple of months' break so probably not (my right one hurt because of egg collections/punctures of my right ovary, now that I've stopped doing that then the pain went away). You'd probably be better off painwise to wait till you have a follicle on your right instead.

    Babyhopeful, if there is a next time then I still wouldn't transfer an embryo of worse quality with one of much better quality as I was told the body may want to get rid of the bad one and by accident that would have an impact of the good one too.. but if the not so good embryo would be discarded and the only one to transfer then I would definitely give it a chance inside your uterus.

    Msj I had my p levels checked on transfer day and they were 63 pmol, so a good number..I didn't check it again but I increased my progesterone intake later on.

    Klik... I hope the little man has arrived by now..!

    Afm I am still unsure how much one crinone would be compared to cyclogest or utrogestan. I was told one crinone is about 600-800mg utrogestan. Can this really be? Why did I then start bleeding on a natural FET cycle using one crinone?

    I have an appointment with Dr Jurkovic's colleague now to check out that small fibroid thingy as Dr J is away till August :/  so far Reprofit say to keep it in as removing will mean more harm than good. And Gennet say to remove it as it can impact implantation!!

    My jury service has surprisingly finished after 4 weeks (rather than 7) as we reached a unanimous (not guilty!)  verdict after 3 days of deliberation. That was hard work and the most difficult thing I have done and we are still not sure if we did the right thing (hence not guilty). The night before I dreamt of my teeth falling out and when I googled it it said this is common with a lot of stress, and before you have to make a difficult decision etc  :o

    So anyone up to meet up and talk about donor egg...?

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    « Reply #249 on: 7/07/19, 11:11 »
    Hi Kat, thanks for your thoughts. Btw well done on jury duty it must be so hard to hold somebody's fate in your hands. Your advice to wait is wise but you know me I'm actually on my way to Stansted as I type... I never learn, do I? In my defence i saw a lady the other day breastfeeding a newborn in a cafe and that sealed my fate, the moment i saw it i realised so clearly that this is me , this is where I need to be. Not just my mind my whole body longs for it. And I know I've done over 2 years of BF and was really reaching my limits and wanted my body back but here I am. I personally blame the genes.  I perfectly realise that we are genetically programmed to want these things and yet I seem to be happy to go along with it. Total slave to my genes.  No idea what I'm doing the follicle was only 14.6mm on friday but my opk was positive yesterday so dr Pavel suggested triggering and so I did.