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« Reply #300 on: 7/10/20, 11:55 »
@LateBloom aaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!! That's amazing news, congratulations on your little girl
Love hearing your success and encouragement

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    « Reply #301 on: 7/10/20, 12:20 »
    @LateBloom  Big big congratulations!  ^rainbow^ ^tantrum^ ^xmas2^ ^pompom^ !!!! What a beautiful love story with a perfect ending.

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    « Reply #302 on: 7/10/20, 14:28 »
    Congratulations LateBloom, wonderful news!  ^rainbow^ ^pinkted^ ^cloud9^

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    « Reply #303 on: 10/10/20, 20:11 »
    @LateBloom - that's awesome news, well done ladies  ^pinkted^ A daughter of my friend was born 3050 kg a few years ago, she rules in the kindergarten now :)

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    « Reply #304 on: 11/10/20, 03:16 »
    Hi all,

    I have some positive news at last :) that I hope is helpful for a few questions on clinics, etc. (despite my fears post implantation!)

    @Olgarkorbut, really feel your journey and might be worth contacting clinic I found.  I had a BFP (although was very nervous as previous BFP with very high hCG turned out to be failed implantation), but my 6 wk scan showed a glorious heartbeat following first DE treatment at Procrear, Reus, Tarragona Spain.  Can't really recall how I found them but endless searching as I wanted a Spanish clinic to follow on from my first son who was conceived with DE through IVF Spain, Alicante who were amazing and so attentive.  After another 2 failed FET with IVF Spain from last 2 embryos I couldn't go back as by the time my last positive result turned negative at 6 wk scan I was 52.  Intersting to hear about Genimed too as I thought Procrear were one of the only clinics in Spain to take beyond 50.  They told me their work has proven that success is just as likely with DE over 50 as under 50 althugh I don't know if they have an upper limit but worth contacting perhaps.  In comparison to IVF Span, Procrear have been rather scant at times on communication and information but I think it is because they only have one international coordinator (Serenella), who is wonderful but busy HOWEVER the process has been successful so far so that's what matters!!! Serenella has been very attentive via Whats App but less so on email and with background info they have relatively lower international promotion than some clinics. Also lower one-to-one attention and less expensive clinic ambience but treatment was also cheaper.  The Director who actually did my implantation seems very highly recognised (Dr Mezzani) and is Chair of one of the national infertility groups/panels but personal touch was more distant compared with the treatment I got at IVF Spain.  Anyway I'm on my way and will stay positive for a full term outcome!

    @Prettybrowneyes
    Name of clinic - IVF Spain, Alicante (up to 51) with partner then Procrear, Reus (at 53) alone with DD
    Country - both Spain
    Positivite pregnancy test yes / no - IVF Spain 1) Yes 2) No 3) Yes then No then Procrear 4) Yes
    Live birth yes/no - 1st try yes, hopeful for this time...
    Frozen or fresh cycle - Fresh with first try, then frozen on 2nd 3rd and 4th: Procrear clinic did a DE cycle just for me seemingly but froze until I was ready to go few weeks later.  I say seemingly as this was DD and I saw no paperwork, only thier verbal on it.
    Medication - IVF Spain - Clexane daily, Oestrogen (Progynova oral 16mg daily), Utrogeston (800mg daily), Folic Acid. Prednisolone up to blood test, 75mg Aspirin.  At Procrear - Oestrogen patches x 2, Prolutex (injectable progesterone 25ml), Cyclogest (progesterone 800mg), Clexane daily, Feb-m (a vaginal probiotic for 2 wks post transfer), hi dose Vit D, Folic & Aspirin.
    Hysteroscopy before treatment - Yes, think so for both clinics but may just have been catheter trial run with US scan? I also have a tilted uterus and both clinics commented on use of catheter type.
    Scratch yes/no - Yes, both clinics and biopsy at same time.
    Any useful tips - Agree trying hard to stay calm and relax into it is important.  I did a lot of meditation this time round (a new life skill learned) and had accupuncture on all attempts as I felt it was good for my state of mind.  I believe it all helped me. 
    Every good wish and lots of compassionate love to you all.  We are amazing women who have a lot of love to give children but can get heavily judged by those who have not been in our shoes.  I have had a lot of negativity from some of my own family, from my partner and partner's family on my age yet delays were largely caused by partner's indecision and delay throughout all treatments ( :o) resulting in me going it alone now but staying strong and positive and focused is vital.  This is our life not theirs. ^reiki^ 
    @LateBloom - huge congratulations on your daughter!!! Wonderful news. x

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    « Reply #305 on: 11/10/20, 07:55 »
    @scarletmac loving the bfp, congratulations! It's so good to hear positive outcomes.
    Thanks for all the info, very detailed

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    « Reply #306 on: 11/10/20, 09:38 »
    Congrats Latebloom, wonderful news to see!
    Scarletmac congrats on BFP

    Sorry not been on here ladies things at home have gone from bad to worse, I live in a house with a so called husband who hasnt really been fo 2-3 years now, and then he leaves me a letter asking me to leave - no chance! then he asks me to move out for Xmas so his mum can come for the week - no chance, my parents are due here this year so he can go to his mums. I've had mental abuse and at one point physical. Im under a charity called osa who deal with mental and more physical abuse which I have had in the past and feel comfy saying to you all on here, gang rape and bullying and more

    I started to look at fostering as befoe he went to weymouth to his mums caravan where she was I said dont text or ring unless you want to try to sort us and he did it, but then said and wait for it, he only rang because he knew I was drinking. I cant and dont drink I have a gastric issue and would end up in hospital. I asked him about my birthday card as said to my wife- said cause I was down and we were in lockdown, my response uyou still do not do that to someone!

    So Ive said I want to take over payments on my car and the insurance which will sort next week, as last week very ill through everything.  Ive said if he doesnt want to be with me he has to leave not me and leave the dogs - my babies, no I pay the mortgage etc. So I have to find a way, cause dont work on PIP to buy him out if I can, god knows how. seeing parents next week and looking at putting all pensions into one pot and taking some out.

    So it looks like my journey is over unless I can get him out of the house so I can look at fostering as they are keen to talk to me because of my background in it and are desparate for foster carers and I know I would be amazing at it!  I have a lovely house which Ive ploughed money into not him, so he's not having it, and a big garden for kids. So fingers crossed, but at the moment Im in a very very difficult situation indeed and darent get into any arguments not that we do much as I dont know what he will be like.  Looks like my journey is at an end unless I meet some lovely man who will treat me as i deserve to be, so been very down to say the least and at times worse but wont go there!

    so to post such a negative message when there are some amazing ones, worse thing have a friend who said she would be a surrogate for me, but he didnt do his sperm with my embryos left, if he had it would be ok but I will email clinic to see what they say.  Heartbreaking for me at the moment to say the least, thats putting it mildly.  But lovely to see positive posts and I will keep my eye on you all!  Thanks for listening Kathy aka Olga xxxxxxxx

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    « Reply #307 on: 11/10/20, 18:04 »
    @ Olgakorbut. Sorry donít really know what to say at the moment but I feel your heart break  :'(.
    Fertility journey in itself is draining in every aspect and having to deal with other extras.. :-\.. is so overpowering. You sound very strong. Good you are able to sort the house and have abit of finances that covers you. Good to also hear you are getting support from some charities too...you are not alone. ^hugme^

    Saying it out here must have been a relief , so please donít bottle things up. I hope  ^pray^ things settle down and work out as you want it.

    Hang on!

    Sending more emoji hugs  ^Cuddle^ And some fairy bubbles  ^fairydust^

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    « Reply #308 on: 14/10/20, 01:22 »
    Dear Olgakorbut,

    Congratulations on your incredible strength and ability to talk through your awful circumstances. Please make sure after the last episode you don't permit your now ex- to waste a single more day of your precious future.  Stay safe but keep the distance.  AND... don't ever give up!  I am close to separating I believe and my current BFP was a double donation so you don't always need a man (although a kind, loving one is always a big advantage I expect although don't have experience of this alas).  After my/our gorgeous son was born in 2017 from the first IVF (which I had to fight tooth and nail for with my partner for over 3 years due to him feeling 'too old' and having 2 teenage sons) and the two failed attempts in late 2018, also fought so hard for, my partner wouldn't consent to a last try nor does he support what I'm doing.  I arrnaged and paid for 5 or 6 sessions of joint specialist counselling to see oif one or both of us could change our view but I think this was too late or pointless as we both have deep, fixed views.  Eventually I had to go forward alone as having lost so many years (at my age!!) it was now or never for a last try.  He said for me to go it alone but didn't want me and my son to move out.  He doesn't even know it's a BFP and although he knew the basics of my last IVF journey and agreed we stay in the house and "see" what happens, he didn't ask how I got on when I arrived hme nor has asked once of my wellbeing since.  I expect he is afraid to know! 
    I also thought looked into fostering and adoption but without my partner's willingness this has been a dead end so a DD was the simplest, however I would still consider fostering once I am established on my own.  You have the passion so you will be an amazing mother, foster or donor ecipient. GOOD LUCK and stay strong. x ^hugme^

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    « Reply #309 on: 14/10/20, 09:11 »
    Hi All

    Sorry for the delay in responding to your posts scarletmac and sweetmother.  Unfortunately I dont have the finances to buy him out but am hoping to see my parents next week to see if they can help though I am looking to amalgamate pensions into one pot very soon and take some out and take over payments for my car and the insurance so he has no control over that at least!  He has never ever bothered to try anything to help us, he gave up long before I did, I kept trying he never made an effort!   When I was away last year in rehab, though not drinking at all, I chose to go still for coping mechanisms and to make sure I was healthy he was not interested at all, everyone said when he visited it was only to bring my parnets to see me he really didnt want to be there and didnt bother with me before or after!

    I cant go it along Bratislava who I am in contact with have said he has to give permission and not sure he would or maybe he would be I know full well there is a very strong chance, that it would fail again due to my high killer cells. So fostering etc is my only option I believe though I have been offered by someone to be a surrogate as said so will write to reprofit to see what they say.  But at the moment I am thinking is it the right thing to do with the situation at home and yes thank god for Rosa who are due to ring me today, couldnt speak last week as so ill with stress gastric kicked off big time though got my patch on trialling and within 24 hours it stopped!! I was that down and upset that I had a car crash too, luckily only on my drive straight into the fence so the car has had to go to be mended, back next Monday but one smashed up fence for the neighbour and he had me on the drive balling eyes out saying sorry, felt a right idiot! x

    scarlet mac I feel for you not sure where you live at all but if close to me would happily support you in person.  If you cant speak to him I would wait until you get to a certain stage and then leave him a note saying that you are pg - he sounds like my so called hubby they dont talk to you unless it is all about them and on their terms and what they want to say and knickers to you! Not sure if you are living in separate rooms like we are and have for a long time, if so I feel you would be better off on your own. I am like you too I cant foster at the moment as he is in the same house and unless I can buy him out I have not hope and would have to sell my home and the doggies, which breaks my heart the amount of work and money I have put into it. 

    I am doing my best to stay strong but more recently got quite suicidal, though dont think I would have the guts to do anything and wouldnt, I have tried in the past but only as a cry for help!

    Sweetmother thank you so much for your kind words they mean a lot and yes it was a relief to get it out on here. I didnt want to lie to you all, and make out that my journey was going swimmingly and things were progressing any longer, so I had to say what was happening and I hope nobody minds that I did. As said its nice to see some happy stories. I feel though at 57 now my time has run out so fostering would be the only thing, they even got in touch with me in the last week after me contacting them so that is really upsetting me.  I must reply and say it is on hold currently for personal reasons and leave it at that. 

    Thanks so much both I am doing my best to stay strong I really am, but very difficult when you live with someone that if you mention anything they met get nasty!  So I just dont, he's said nothing since the last episode but I know for one I will not move out at Xmas for a week so his mum can come here, no chance!  I did all the deco in the house I think its because he feels its his house and he will stay here with the dogs and I can move out, well Ive told him straight I wont give permission to sell and nor will I move out and others have told me, including Rosa not to move out under any circumstances. 

    Thanks all xxxx