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Offline CatLadyTTC1

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Hello everyone.

We had our first IVF cycle cancelled yesterday as although they collected 5 eggs, they called me to say the cells around the edge of the egg had started to fall away so weíre going to do ICSI then just an hour later they called to say all 5 eggs that were collected were immature. They said this is very rare

Our cycle started with 300 Pergoveris, Saturday last week and then from Thursday 250 of cetrocide. I had my first scan the Wednesday before on day 1 and had 10 follies. The subsequent scan on Friday after injections showed 6 follies above 11mm 2 of which were above 16mm. I then had a called late Friday to confirm the egg collection was scheduled for Monday (yesterday) thatís just 7 days stimming and just one ultrasound scan. My original plan was for egg collection this Friday.

Has anyone got any advice for me for questions to ask the Drs tomorrow? I am seeing both consultants. One is a supposed specialist in low AMH and retrieving a good egg haul however he was the one that gave me just 7 days of stimming. Iíve seen that this is incredibly rare. Not seen anyone go in for EC after so few days.

Anyone got any hope that mature eggs were finally retrieved after a change in cycle management?

Thank you.

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    Offline K jade

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    « Reply #1 on: 23/04/19, 21:04 »
    Sounds like a really poorly managed cycle on your clinics part.
    No 7 days generally isn't enough. Usually it's 12-14 days.
    Getting mostly immature eggs is a sign the protocol is completely wrong, rather than there being an issue with your eggs
    Also it sounds like you did antagonist protocol by what u mentioned, as your started taking FSH on its own, then added the down reg a few days in..?
    This protocol was a disaster for me too. I ended up with 2 massive lead follies
    I would make sure that next time they put u on short or long protocol. But really they have some explaining to do
    Sorry for the awful day you've had xx


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    « Reply #2 on: 23/04/19, 22:03 »
    It does seem a very short stim phase: we have done a poll over the last few years and the vast majority of people are between 10-13 days according to our results. I was a 7 day stim, but I am an over responder.

    https://www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325299.msg5880869#msg5880869

    Regardless of the length of stims, on its own it seems a little early to collect if you had 6 over 11mm and only 2 over 16mm. Lots of clinics have a set number they aim for (both of mine aimed for 3) so I would ask your clinic to explain why they didnít let you stim an extra day or two and rescan Sunday/Monday.

    Good luck at your review xxx

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    « Reply #3 on: 24/04/19, 01:04 »
    Thanks both.

    Both me and OH had concerns about the EC on Monday so soon after the scan. I just knew on Monday things werenít right. I was crying during EC As I totally knew it was not right.

    For some reason we have the review with the clinician that did the EC and the clinics clinical director who was the one that said to collect Monday and is also the clinical lead. I donít know why 2 senior clinicians are going to be in the room?! Anyone else had this?!

    Iím kinda over being upset, Iím more angry at the wasted money, wasted time, wasted hope and complete (what feels like for me) mismanagement of this cycle. I want answers and I will not settle until I have them.

    Thanks again ladies and Iíll update tomorrow. If you have anything to add or anyone else, feel free xx

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    « Reply #4 on: 24/04/19, 20:14 »
    I hope you are getting on ok today and that the review went ok xxx

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    « Reply #5 on: 24/04/19, 20:31 »
    Sorry Iíll update xx

    The consultant said it was just a poor cycle and unknown if this is a one off or my eggs are bad. The embryologist who has apparently worked in the field for a number of years has never ever seen eggs like mine. Theyíve determined that the eggs were ultimately poor quality and immature. I expressed my concern regarding the short protocol of just 7 days and he said itís because they wanted to harvest the big 2 or they could affect the little ones following in behind. He also said that basically in an ideal world a scan on Sunday wouldíve been better but as theyíre closed they couldnít! Theyíll be using the same drugs as before.

    Weíve decided to do one more cycle with my eggs just to see if they are poor or if thereís a chance. Iíve also been proactive and contacted dogus in Cyprus to see what tests they want us to complete or tests they need us to do etc. We absolutely love Cyprus so us going there would not been seen as Ďweirdí. Weíre going with our next ivf cycle in 5/6 weeks. Iíve told our clinic we want more monitoring and a more personable approach. As weíve paid for 2 cycles, weíve got nothing to lose.

    Thank you for your messages xx

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    « Reply #6 on: 25/04/19, 21:23 »
    Iím glad to see your update and although itís obviously mixed, itís good to see you positive and with a direction.

    Lots of love and luck xxx

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    « Reply #7 on: 25/04/19, 21:31 »
    Oh cloudy itís all changed.

    Weíre thinking of just going to Cyprus and ditching the uk. The clinic we used we havenít been impressed with and I begrudge giving them more money tbh and I think walking away would be better. We live only near that specific clinic. Any other clinics are a minimum of 2 hours away so we might as well just go abroad. Thinking about doing a tandem cycle or were wasting more time! Donít want to be on the ivf journey to just waste so much time and hopes and tears. Iím now trying to find out where the hell I can get blood tests done and everything else that comes with this. Always a massive learning curve.

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    « Reply #8 on: 25/04/19, 21:53 »
    Just a thought, you can actually get your bloods done out at the clinic, if itís easier for you  :)

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    « Reply #9 on: 25/04/19, 22:33 »
    Hi Stacey.

    They have said

    Tandem cycle (your eggs+donor eggs) the price is 4500 euro.
    Can you send me your fsh,e2,amh,tsh results and i will let you know yhe success rate for IVF,TANDEM AND EGG DONATION.

    Iíve only ever had amh and then tsh done with antibodies. I donít know what the other tests are I think fsh is taken on day 3 of my cycle and e2?! Iím lost there.

    Youíre all so lovely here. Thank you xx