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Offline Aggieblue

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« Reply #70 on: 25/10/19, 14:16 »
Londonwriter, thanks for the heads up (pun intended ;D). a cone headed baby would definitely make me worry but good to know it's only temporary! yesterday i could feel him kick above the belly button line so maybe he's getting more comfortable using all the space.

PhysiosWife, congrats on the boy! there are a lot of boys here :)  is the birthing ball helping with your back? i was offered and will eventually try it. at the moment i have a cushion that is for coccyx pain as I'm suffering from that too. it keeps the bum higher than the knees and I find that more comfortable and helps with posture.
how was the GTT test? what did you think of the drink? i don't normally drink sugary drinks so i'm dreading it! mine is next week.

Lauren, glad to hear you didn't find the GTT drink that bad. glad to hear decorating is going well and the blue sounds lovely!

AFM, i had my midwife appointment this morning. obviously, it was NOTHING, i think the receptionist maybe misunderstood, it wasn't urgent at all, they might just have been wondering when i'm in and they didn't see the appointment already booked. the only thing was some bacteria in my urine last time (i had the world's worst cold at the time) so they wanted to send another one to the lab, although all tests were fine that the midwife did on it today. it was confirmed that all my bloods were came back good and I was booked in for another one before my 28 weeks check. we also (finally!) listened to his heartbeat. Midwife was struggling to find it as baby was kicking about but eventually we got it. Even though he is super active so I know every day he is well, it is amazing to hear his fast little heartbeat.  ^Heart^
I think i will wait now for my scan at 28 weeks. I am going on a sort of babymoon in a week to Spain with a friend, so time will fly anyway!

i'm feeling good, just getting some pain in my lower back now in the evening. strangely it's all fine all day when i'm straight up, it's when I lie down I get the pain, so I imagine it's the weight of the baby+uterus that's causing it.

Hope everyone else is doing well :)

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    Offline Aggieblue

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    « Reply #71 on: 1/11/19, 14:50 »
    oooh very quiet here!

    i had my gestational diabetes test - it was alright, although had to go straight into a meeting after that, that wasn't fun. also there was about 20 of us and one of the other ladies just projectile vomited up the liquid... poor thing!

    off to Spain in the very early hours of the morning, roll on Babymoon!!  ^jumpin^

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    « Reply #72 on: 1/11/19, 20:51 »
    Hi all,,
    Yay Aggie, how lovely to be getting away to the sun.:0)
    I've got my glucose test on weds am. Is the liquid that bad? That poor woman, that sounds awful.
    Lauren coped with hers ok.
    i have that cold that you had before. Loving the combination of having a blocked nose and compressed lungs. Feel like I'm being smothered.are you feeling better now?
    Still having back trouble?
    i still struggle to go to sleep on my side and always wake up on my back. :0(

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    « Reply #73 on: 6/11/19, 09:55 »
    whatonearth, hope you're feeling better now? i think it's ok to wake up on your back, if you worry, maybe put a pillow behind your back as well so you can't turn over. just reposition yourself if you wake up. i still struggle with lower back pain at night. i'm fine during the day and when i lay down... keeps me awake for a long time. at home i use a hot water bottle but forgot to bring it to Spain.
    hope your GD test went ok?


    I got a call yesterday from the hospital and sadly i have gestational diabetes. really a shock as I have a very healthy lifestyle, i walk a lot every day, i exercise a few times a week, I follow a vegan diet and avoid processed sugar. but what can you do. i have to go to an educational session next week where i'm gonna be showed how to use the blood sugar measuring device and talk about diet etc. such a pain. i'm trying not to worry much although I did read up on possible complications, but just going to try and see how things go. hopefully it won't get any worse and sugar levels can be controlled by a strict diet. :(

    hope everyone else is ok?

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    « Reply #74 on: 6/11/19, 16:09 »
    I got a call yesterday from the hospital and sadly i have gestational diabetes. really a shock as I have a very healthy lifestyle, i walk a lot every day, i exercise a few times a week, I follow a vegan diet and avoid processed sugar. but what can you do. i have to go to an educational session next week where i'm gonna be showed how to use the blood sugar measuring device and talk about diet etc. such a pain. i'm trying not to worry much although I did read up on possible complications, but just going to try and see how things go. hopefully it won't get any worse and sugar levels can be controlled by a strict diet. :(

    Yikes! Sorry to hear that :(

    I have the genetic risk factors for Type 2 diabetes (according to Dr Gorgy's tests) so am worried about it this time around, especially as I had a shoulder dystocia with a smallish (8lb 5oz) baby. I didn't have it last pregnancy (and had to do the drink test). This time it's apparently a blood test at 28 weeks and only the drink test if I 'fail' the blood test.

    I saw my consultant again on Friday and just had a complete meltdown afterwards. I'd asked him about birth plans last time and said I didn't want a c-section following the shoulder dystocia. He said, just as I left the room 'it's not what I would do' and panicked me completely.

    We spoke again and he panicked me again. This time because he evidently believes anyone with a shoulder dystocia should have an ELCS if they get the option. His gynaecological specialism is reconstructing birth injuries in women and the risk is quite high. He also felt I was a high-risk pregnancy given I'm nearly 40, have had IVF and have some kind of undiagnosed autoimmune disease with a cardio-vascular component - so I sensed he was skeptical that I could actually give birth without loads of interventions.

    I ended up feeling like some kind of crazy hippy mom for wanting to give birth vaginally. I spent the entire weekend crying over having a c-section I didn't want, especially as I react horribly to morphine, have a fear of sedation, and am allergic to whole classes of antibiotics. It's possible I'm the only person in England to have had a 12-egg collection without conscious sedation for psychological reasons (it was fine). I ended up crying with terror about being given diamorphine without my consent because no one would understand why I would prefer to be in agonising pain (I have experience of both agonising pain and morphine - the pain is better). Anyhow, after we'd looked at the stats, it turns out that - given no other risk factors - it's marginal between ELCS and vaginal birth. The risk of permanent injuries to the baby from vaginal birth after shoulder dystocia is actually really low (about 1 in 1,000) and that's for arm paralysis. The risk of anything more serious is around 1 in 3,000, which is at the level of quite serious surgical complications from any surgery.

    After that, I calmed down a bit, but am still worried about my GD test as I obviously don't want a large baby (my DS was only 8lb 5oz and got stuck). I've been so worried about it that I've actually been deliberately reducing carbohydrates in my diet to try to ensure Grape is no bigger than DS. My DH is really worried about it as, if I don't have GD, I could end up with a low birthweight baby. Also because I used to eat such a low carbohydrate diet that I'd hypo after a few day's intensive exercise - despite not being diabetic. DH's sister is diabetic so eventually he worked out what kept going wrong with me.

    I just feel seriously stupid worrying about this stuff when I'm lucky enough to be pregnant with a (cross fingers) healthy little boy  :(

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    « Reply #75 on: 7/11/19, 22:53 »
    Aggie - Sorry to hear that, while it sucks you have it at least you know and can be taught to deal with appropriately. Such a pain to have to talk about a healthy diet when you pretty much already have one though. I hope it all goes well when you have to go and see them about it.

    Londonwriter - So is your plan to give birth naturally? I hope you are able to do this without any issues. You've got to go with what you are comfortable with and what is best for you. Don't feel stupid for worrying about anything. We all have things we worry about whether it seems silly to others or not.

    AFM - We had a scare on Friday, the baby was moving like usual so we ended up going to the hospital and put on a monitor. Luckily everything is okay and our little boy is fine in there, just having a lazy day I suppose. However when we were there they did a urine test and found I had a ton of glucose in my urine.... I had drunk a little too much fizzy pop that day although I know I shouldn't I can't stop drinking fizzy drinks. This caused them to book me in for another GTT which I had yesterday. I've not heard anything as of yet so it might have just been a one off on Friday.

    The only other issue I have had lately is the fact that no one has measured my bump yet. I'm 31 weeks and 5 days and yet to have been measured. I was told I would be measured at 28 weeks, that didn't happen. I was meant to see my midwife yesterday but because I had to go in for my GTT I had to cancel, I tried to rearrange and told her I was concerned I've not been measured and she told me that it would be done yesterday by the hospital but yet again it didn't. I know when they measure you they can get things wrong but at this point it is stressing me out that my baby could be too big or too small and no one would have a clue because they aren't doing their job correctily.

    I hope everyone else is doing well :-)

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    « Reply #76 on: 11/11/19, 14:34 »
    S_lauren - hope the little one is moving around okay :) A second GTT sounds really annoying - sorry you have to do that   :'(

    My plan is, barring any additional risk factors (or something like a breech baby), to give birth 'naturally'. It was a huge deal to feel my DS leaving my body, to feel the natural hormone release bonding me and my little one, and to be able to walk out of the hospital the day after I gave birth. It was just an incredible experience. Not a painless experience, but it was painful a bit like walking up Ben Nevis - a nuisance while you're doing it, but also hugely satisfying for the experience and the view when you get to the top.

    Given I've had a shoulder dystocia and am 40 in December, I won't be able to have a home or water birth but - despite being induced last time - I managed to get to 8cm dilated without any pain relief (the midwife thought I'd be there all night so offered an epidural to allow me to sleep until morning. Had it turned out that I only had an hour or so left of labour, I'd have carried on regardless) and I moved around as much as I could given I had to have a monitor and my DS was lying on his cord. This time, I'm hoping for a shorter labour (second labours are usually shorter) and I'm also hoping that I don't have a recurrence of the PROM at term and go into labour naturally. This time, I'm planning to labour without pain relief. Not for masochistic reasons or anything, but because I don't enjoy taking narcotics for pain relief and the epidural stopped me really feeling my DS moving around while I was birthing him - which was less good than it sounds (I could feel him wriggling about and my consultant invited me to put my hand on his head while he was coming out. I still remember touching his damp hair - a simply mind-boggling, once-in-a-lifetime-kinda experience).

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    « Reply #77 on: 12/11/19, 15:45 »
    Londonwriter - what a nightmare about your consultant not supporting your birth choice. at the end of the day, it's your choice, and if you are fully aware of possible complications and still want a natural birth, it's your decision. He can't make you do something you don't want to.
    the way you describe giving birth is so beautiful. i'm already in awe of feeling my boy moving around and kicking inside me, so incredible. A few days ago i was sure I could feel a little feet when I pressed on a kick!
    I am worried that the GD will mean I won't have all options open for me regarding the birth. I'm not anti-intervention but I would rather try without those and let my body do its thing. My boy has been measuring a week ahead from the very beginning so I doubt that's from the GD. I also don't really eat carbs much at all, never have, just not a massive fan of rice, potatoes, etc.

    Lauren,  sorry about that scare, glad to hear baby is doing well! i do feel some days they're just lazier. I almost called the midwife on Sunday but then he did get back to his normal kicking in the evening and hasn't stopped since.
    I was also told they would start measuring at the 28 weeks appointment and they put a chart into my notes to track. Annoying it hasn't been done for you! Have you heard back from your GTT test?

    AFM - all is good here, i have my GD education tomorrow. i stopped drinking orange juice in the morning and cut down on fruit (which i miss so much!). not much else to report, apart from starting my antenatal classes this Thursday! bit nervous about them, attending as a single woman, but a friend of mine is coming with me. has any of you done any?

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    « Reply #78 on: 12/11/19, 17:48 »
    AggieBlue - let me know how you get on with the GD stuff.

    I'm worried about GD. I did the glucose test last time and it was a non-issue. I guess I assumed - because I was fit and BMI 21 - it wasn't something that applied to me. I did a fasting blood glucose and blood insulin as part of a battery of tests with Dr Gorgy and just remember getting an insulin resistance index of 0.9 (where the limit is 1.0). It stuck in my mind. Looking at it again, it's because my measured blood glucose (4.9) was almost identical to my blood insulin (4.7).

    Not sure what the significance of that is, but you getting diagnosed with GD despite being a vegan on a low-carb diet who exercises really worried me (not your fault) :) I have a screening blood test for GD at my 28-week appointment (I'm currently 25 weeks) and started worrying that my consultant would definitely want to give me a c-section if I had that risk factor as well.

    Anyhow, having panicked about this ( ::)), I had three days eating spinach and onion omelettes for lunch, which - by Friday - gave me a false hypo after standing at a cold bus stop waiting to pick up my son from nursery (I have been known to get hypoglycaemic symptoms on walking holidays). I was shaking for hours, felt very cold, become light headed and couldn't concentrate.  I had to sit in bed to keep warm and it was lucky my mum was staying and could look after DS  :-[ That prompted me to buy a blood glucose monitor from Argos and have been monitoring since Friday night. It's not great news because my fasting blood glucose seems to be bobbing around the NHS limit (5.1-5.7) and, invariably, it rises to 7.4-7.7 after eating just about anything. It rocketed to 9.3 after eating rolled oats with skimmed milk although, given I've had two other 9+ readings that didn't replicate on retest, that could have been my crap testing technique/an artefact of the machine.

    I already eat a low GI/medium carb diet (I can't cut out too many carbs because of my activity level and my tendency to get hypoglycaemic symptoms) so there isn't really much I can do about those numbers. I've stopped drinking orange juice, swapped the porridge for scrambled egg on rye bread with plain 0% fat yoghurt and nuts, and swapped my single square of 90% dark chocolate with nuts/peanut butter. I've been busily researching the glycaemic index of every food imaginable, but it's not making much difference at all.

    If I do get a GD diagnosis, it will also be very odd as my pre-pregnancy BMI is around 22, I eat - well, as described - and I'm on course to do four dance aerobics classes this week (plus a 30-minute dog run every morning, a cardio weights class and a 16-mile trike ride with my son). From reading on the internet, it seems that when athletic people with a good diet get GD (or even be prediabetic) it's due to genetic risk factors and hormones, but the NHS leaflets I've found don't give that impression :( The only thing I can think, given my borderline numbers (putting aside my general ignorance of whether they'd actually fail me on the glucose challenge test), is that I'm potentially at risk of LADA (which is autoimmune) and it's related to the systemic inflammation/unknown autoimmune disease that I've been busily treating at various fertility clinics for the last seven years.

    Not sure how much Dunning-Kruger effect I'm demonstrating around BG testing here (it's possible that BG consistently fluctuating between 5.1 and 7.7 is perfectly normal), but it's proving an interesting experiment, at least. I've learned, for example, that when my BG drops below 4.8, I start getting the hypoglycaemia-like symptoms, and that porridge isn't the best way to stop me getting hungry before 11am.

    Either way, I'm certain your GD diagnosis is nothing to do with anything you've done (and any non-individualised meeting you have with a dietician is probably going to be wasting your time) :)

    All the best of luck! :)

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    « Reply #79 on: 12/11/19, 21:57 »
    Hi all,
    Aggie, I hope the GD clinic goes well. Such a nightmare. My colleagueís partner developed GD and had to alter her diet slightly and took metformin. As soon as their lovely little girl was born she stopped the meds and the diabetes disappeared. I don't think it impacted on her day to day during the pregnancy and their daughter was just under 8lbs.
    Rubbish pregnancy related activities related - Iím injecting anti coagulants every night, which is a pain, literally, but itís not for much longer.

    London you sounded as if you had made your decision re the birth, but still sound troubled about the possibility of GD interfering with your plans. This is anecdotal, but my ex was a type 1 diabetic and would test my blood sugar after meals and it did rise then fall after an hour, if his rose it would tend to stay high unless he injected more insulin. I was thinking of suggesting an blood sugar monitor for you and you have already got that organised. As far as I recall you need to compare your results after an hour or so to get a better sense of how your bodyís insulin is dealing with the increased levels.
    Even if you donít pass the GTT, the treatment will bring your levels back under control, so shouldn't affect your little grapeís growth, if that is the main concern.
    This is my second birth too and Iím hoping that it will be faster and more straightforward too. Chances are it will be for you too as you said, your body will have been changed by your DS, so hopefully, the shoulder dystocia wont be an issue this time and grape can thank his big brother for that.
    I have an aversion to morphine too and ruled it out on my birth plan last time, luckily I didn't need it, but I feel your pain.
    Are you planning to go to pregnancy yoga or pilates? I have been looking into classes, but not done anything other than look. Well emailed one, but they didnít reply. Hmm!
    Lauren not another GTT. I don't know what that drink is, but I hope to never taste it again.. Could you swap some of the fizzy drinks for sparkling spring water before the test?
    I had the glucose test last Wednesday and nothing since. Hopefully, the silence means I am OK for now. I texted my midwife and asked if I should put my box of doughnuts in the bin, but no reply.
    I have now come out at work and to more friends and suddenly, loads of people are contacting me to meet for a catch up, itís exhausting. Still have edgy, cornery bits to paint and lots to do, carpet etc... so finding the social calendar is a bit too full on. I suppose it will all go quiet afterwards, and itís definitely easier to meet up with no baby.
    One group wants to organise a baby shower. Is anyone having a baby shower? I was project Ďno fussí, but it would be nice to see people all at once. Not that I want them to spend money, just for the fun.
    Hi to everyone else, I hope you are all plodding along and feeling healthy