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BFP Due Date - January/February 2020

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#1 ·
The place to chat for all Jan/Feb due dates  :)
 
#102 ·
Aggie that's great that you are so healthy and your iron levels are good.
It is always lovely to hear that little, crazy hearbeart. It's so fast, it's nuts.
i hear you about the food. Unlike you I do get hungry, but the indigestion is so awful it puts me off eating.must be a nightmare when you are having to watch blood sugar too!
How do you think you can get out of the red zone?
Recently, I concluded that I would have to do frequent snacks rather than actual meals, to fight the heartburn.
I've been eating hummous and carrot sticks, or oat cakes and soup and salad every two or three hours. Will need to buy a bag of nuts to carry about and more bananas. I like a bit of cottage cheese, but obviously not good for vegans. Still lots of dips around, baba ganoush, gaucamole etc...
so difficult when we are always being told not to eat between meals.
The anaesthesiologist today was actually lovely. She kept telling me how clever I was for things that actually are not even vaguely clever. Like being able to stick out my lower jaw. Even complimented me on my back because my spine was "perfect" and not underneath a giant layer of flab.
I'm genius! :0))
She didn't think I would need any intervention, but there is a pain killer button thing, which is not morphine (London) which can help with induced labour.
My hospital only has a video tour, no visits (phew! I'm such a wimp)

 
#103 ·
Hi all,
London, sorry, I somehow missed your post.
The decorating sounds mad. It always seems to work that way: plans changing last minute. I think I tend to forget the upheaval involved until it’s too late.
No wonder people go years in between decorating, it takes that long to recover.
How are things progressing, are you seeing a difference?
Do you still have a lot of support around? Sounds great. Did you say you have a nanny?
What are your childcare plans Aggie?
I’ve had lots of support from friends, but my mum is probably in the early stages of dementia - she has two appointments in the next couple of months to check her memory.
I wouldn’t ask her to go anywhere with the baby, but she would, hopefully be ok just at home, so I could get a break now and then. Plus theres always the impossibly, caring world of CBeebies. Everyone is so inclusive and full of moral fibre on there.
Ive been looking into altering baby birth positions, probably need an exercise ball (hate them) to get that baby into optimal position. Ooo especially if I have this induction, I have heard they are more painful than spontaneous labour. Don’t want any back to back nonsense.
When do you guys have your next scans?
My wee lump is transverse (from scan and kicks) at the moment, so will see at the scan in on the 13th how she is lying.
Is anyone drinking raspberry leaf tea?
 
#104 ·
Whatonearth - Well, the lining paper has been stripped off in my DS' room and we're down to bare plaster and filler. The decoration was so bad (peeling lining paper & a bad paint job) that it actually looks better now. We've got the floor sanding people on Thursday/Friday and the decorator is going to be working in the front room while they're upstairs. So, over the weekend, I cleared the spare room of everything (we were using it as a junk room) with the help of my mum (and 'hlep' from my DS) to make the sanding easier.

My DH, meanwhile, did a blitz on paint stripping the coving in the front room, which took all weekend and still isn't finished (so the living room is now also out of action), but it looks absolutely incredible. The detail on the coving is so good that it looks like it's just been put in new - it's like a time warp back to the 1890s.

I have a part-time nanny who will be leaving in January as she wants to get a full-time job. In addition, I work at my DS' grandmother's (granny) once a week while she looks after DS, and he's at nursery one day. I also have my mum (Nanna) visiting regularly for a week at a time. At the moment, the nanny is off sick so my mum is looking after DS. When our nanny leaves, I will probably have an au pair for six months and then hire a new nanny. So... I'm recruiting an au pair (on top of the decorating). Plan is that au pair will sleep in the spare room while Grape is in our room, and then - after six months - Grape will move into the spare room.

No raspberry tea drinking...

I went for a scan on Saturday due to my continuing worry over Grape being large/needing a c-section I don't want/blood glucose. As I feared, he's enormous. He's at the 89% percentile for head and 98% for stomach, and is running two weeks ahead of date. I've told my consultant and have had an appointment arranged for tomorrow. Anyway, I started monitoring blood glucose again and it was 5.3 fasting, 7.9 after 90 minutes of my low-GI breakfast, and dropped to 4.7 later in the morning. Which is much better than when last monitoring, especially as I have a bad cold. It's also pretty similar to what it was a fortnight ago.

Grape is also currently transverse so I got some nice pictures. He has his father's nose.
 
#105 ·
London, i think it may have been ketones, yes, didn't quite catch with the midwife said but after googling it, it sounds like that might be it. i'm not too worried about it to be honest, i am definitely not starving myself and i am trying to eat a bit more now.
do you think you'll be done with what you need to do before the baby arrives, decoration wise? sounds like so much is going on!
Would you consider taking medication for your sugar levels? 7.9 an hour and a half later is still quite high as it's supposed to be under 7.8 after an hour. or are there any more changes you could make to your diet? I still haven't had a bad reading so far, the highest level i had was 7.8 after one dinner when I had to grab something on the go and had a wrap from the shop - white tortilla wrap, not the best idea! so not going to have that again. luckily i can eat two slices of sourdough bread without it affecting my levels, which is a relief!

whatonearth, sorry to hear about your mum. I don't have family here (and my parents passed away anyway) so I am relying on friends. my best friend offered to stay with me for a week or two after the birth and i know a few who will bring over food etc to keep me going.  thanks for the snack tips. i am treating myself to almond butter i eat out of the jar with some fruit. i always have nuts on me too!
yes induction meant to be more painful contractions. eeeek.
my next scan is in 3 weeks, at 32 weeks. it's gonna come around fast!
regarding childcare, i want to come back to work after a year, maybe 4 days a week, so looking at nurseries now. i should try and visit some this week and next and just reserve a place. it's so crazy you have to do it so early! as a single parent, i sadly will be relying on some support from the government so anxiously waiting on the results of the elections.  ^eyes^

i went to my hospital on sunday for the NHS antenatal class. it was brilliant, lots of hospital specific information. found it very helpful even if i knew some of the things already. it's good to hear from first hand experience from a midwife in your own hospital. got to visit the labour ward and the birth centre too, both were really nice, spacious and calm. I think i will still visit the hospital closer to me, just in case i end up there for any reason. i'm also a bit worried about being sent home a few times during labour if i misjudge which stage i am as i am now a bit far for yoyo-ing back and forth. 

Also went to an NCT Nearly New Sales on saturday, there weren't many newborn stuff, but I did buy a couple of cute things, mostly for next winter, but i just couldn't resist!
 
#106 ·
Aggieblue said:
London, i think it may have been ketones, yes, didn't quite catch with the midwife said but after googling it, it sounds like that might be it. i'm not too worried about it to be honest, i am definitely not starving myself and i am trying to eat a bit more now.
do you think you'll be done with what you need to do before the baby arrives, decoration wise? sounds like so much is going on!
We've got about six weeks to do four weeks' work. It's lining paper/painting in DS' room, plus floor sanding and staining/oiling the floor. Paul (the decorator) is painting the spare room, and that's also going to be sanded/stained/oiled. Then Paul's moving downstairs to paint the front room and papering. I'm only 27 weeks and Paul's suggested he might bring in an extra person at some point.

Aggieblue said:
Would you consider taking medication for your sugar levels? 7.9 an hour and a half later is still quite high as it's supposed to be under 7.8 after an hour. or are there any more changes you could make to your diet?
This is 100% a meds issue. There's no point messing about with diet. The 7.9 reading was after one thin slice of that really dense, dark rye bread with sunflower seeds (GI = 55), with a scrambled egg on top, followed by 0% fat yoghurt and nuts, with a decaffeinated green tea. Unless I start eating protein breads or no carbs whatsoever (basically, Atkin's Diet), or cut out all low-fat dairy (because it's lactose without balancing fat), I'm not going to do better than that.

I did try reducing my carbs further when I was testing a fortnight ago, but - due to the weather and my activity levels - I started getting muscular weakness and lightheadedness. I also got soaring morning blood sugar levels (up to 6.9 at one point), which was my liver going into starvation mode (muscles run off carbs, so it's impossible to go carb-free and be physically active unless you're in constant ketosis, which isn't recommended in pregnancy). DH suggested I could cut my activity levels and go borderline Atkin's Diet, but that seems counter-productive (and I physiologically need to exercise).

Med-wise, it's also been like that TBH since 25 weeks, which is one week after GD is supposed to start. I've been eating a ludicrously low GI diet for a fortnight now and Grape is still enormous. He was also predicted large (85% percentile) at the 20-week scan. So he's not just started growing. We're looking at someone who does 7 hours of hardcore cardio per week at 27 weeks pregnant, on a rock-bottom GI diet, and who had massive GD-style diabetic blood sugar spikes (9.0+ after eating rough porridge) by 25 weeks... That's not normal.

In short, DH doesn't think I've got classic GD. He thinks I'm either so high risk for Type II diabetes for genetic reasons that I was prediabetic going into the pregnancy (my blood tests from Dr Gorgy bear this out) OR my autoimmune problem is steadily destroying my pancreas, and I'm about to develop late-onset Type I (LADA). Either way, I'm not even going to mess around doing the one-hour GTT. There's no point. My plan is to bring my spreadsheet and readings, and demand a) insulin and b) a blood test for GAD autoantibodies (one of the blood tests for Type I diabetes). If they won't diagnose based on my spreadsheet, I'll have to do the three-hour test.
 
#107 ·
Londonwriter said:
This is 100% a meds issue. There's no point messing about with diet. The 7.9 reading was after one thin slice of that really dense, dark rye bread with sunflower seeds (GI = 55), with a scrambled egg on top, followed by 0% fat yoghurt and nuts, with a decaffeinated green tea. Unless I start eating protein breads or no carbs whatsoever (basically, Atkin's Diet), or cut out all low-fat dairy (because it's lactose without balancing fat), I'm not going to do better than that.
To add nonsense to injury, I've just tested an hour after eating a brown tortilla wrap (GI < 30) served beside hummus, feta, lettuce, plum tomatoes and French dressing, plus a decaffeinated skinny cappuccino... and... [drum roll] 6.6. It does seem to be a 'blood sugar messes up in a morning' problem, which is apparently quite common.
 
#108 ·
Londonwriter said:
In short, DH doesn't think I've got classic GD. He thinks I'm either so high risk for Type II diabetes for genetic reasons that I was prediabetic going into the pregnancy (my blood tests from Dr Gorgy bear this out) OR my autoimmune problem is steadily destroying my pancreas, and I'm about to develop late-onset Type I (LADA). Either way, I'm not even going to mess around doing the one-hour GTT. There's no point. My plan is to bring my spreadsheet and readings, and demand a) insulin and b) a blood test for GAD autoantibodies (one of the blood tests for Type I diabetes). If they won't diagnose based on my spreadsheet, I'll have to do the three-hour test.
That's a very good plan! Interesting that we didn't have the 1-hour test and the 3-hour test, just this in the middle 2-hour test.
And i'm definitely not suggesting you go carb free! that's not healthy for anyone, let alone with your exercise regime. But different carbs work differently for everyone, although rye bread is meant to be one of the better ones. But it will be different for everyone, so might be just a question of experimenting. Especially if it's a morning thing, you can get your carbs the rest of the day! Although not sure what to suggest you eat for breakfast if porridge and bread is out of the question, that would also fill you up. :eek: your DH is probably right that it's not GD at all!

Interestingly, Pupo has been large all through my pregnancy as well (sometimes even over the line), but now is right in the middle - except for his head! ouch! i come from a family of big heads so it's hardly a surprise! ;D
 
#109 ·
Aggieblue said:
But different carbs work differently for everyone, although rye bread is meant to be one of the better ones. But it will be different for everyone, so might be just a question of experimenting. Especially if it's a morning thing, you can get your carbs the rest of the day!
I've tried the low-carb breakfast option this morning. It's not really helped that much. The problem is I woke with such high fasting glucose (6.4 average of two readings) that eating something with next-to no carbs (omelette with 6 cherry tomatoes, nuts, 0% Total Greek yoghurt) sent it to 7.2. Can't work out if the 6.4 is normal for me or a result of physiological stress and poor sleep due to the decorating and bad cold.

On the upside, I can now keep my blood sugar almost constantly between 6.2 and 6.5 during the day by diet. My DH tells me that he wouldn't expect my fasting blood glucose to be low given my entire diet is designed to stabilise my blood sugar for hours at a time while exercising as I'm so prone to hypoglycaemic symptoms and am carb intolerant (this precedes the GD worries, but the meter is helping me remove any remaining spikes).

I called my consultant yesterday and am due to see him today about the scan result. I'm just panicking about having an NHS dietician tell me that I have to eat loads of carbs when I'm carb intolerant (carbs make me feel really rubbish) or that meds cause me to gain loads of weight because I store the 1.0 point of excess sugar and then hypo all the time (DH tells me that I need to be careful with insulin because his sister was recently taken out of a business meeting on a stretcher due to a hypo - and she's been diabetic for years).

DH told me that, if I got stupid advice not tailored to my situation, he would personally find me someone who knew what they were talking about - so I should stop worrying. In the meantime, he said that - according to the chart he found on the internet for projected birth weights - Grape was only predicted at 9lb 5oz based on the scan, which was only absurdly large for a second male child if you had a shoulder dystocia with an 8lb 5ozer. Going by his experience with his sister, he thinks my blood sugar is under strong positive control and my concern is entirely that I don't want a c-section so I'm determined to 'shrink' my child (I have explained multiple times that blood glucose issues in pregnancy are not the same as Type I). He actually told me, if I really wanted to shrink Grape that much, I should come off Clexane as I was high risk for intrauterine growth restriction (IUGR) because of my circulatory problems. As I pointed out, I had no idea what that would do and didn't really want Grape to die.
 
#110 ·
da*n London that sounds very gloomy. With all due respect to your DH, I know he means the best, but you do need proper advice from a trained professional. i hope you get it. there must be OBs out there who specialise in diabetes related issues - whatever type of diabetes you are fighting with here. I doubt an NHS dietitian would tell you to eat carbs with those numbers but true that they might not have the xperience you need in your situation.
I appreciate you not wanting a c-section but you do need to look out for yourself and for your baby, above all!

how did your meeting with the consultant go?
 
#111 ·
Aggieblue said:
how did your meeting with the consultant go?
I saw him around 12:30pm. My fears about how I'd get dealt with were completely unfounded. I *didn'*t get booked in for the one-hour test when I already knew I'd fail it (so I'd have to do two tests). He *didn't* completely ignore my week-long history of blood sugar monitoring. He *didn't* refer me to the Guy's and St. Thomas' diabetes midwives for the booking-in meeting where I assumed I'd get a lecture about avoiding Lucozade followed by someone a couple of weeks later telling me that my low-carb/low-GI diet didn't follow the Eatwell guide and I needed to eat two slices of wholemeal toast...

Instead, he's booked me straight in for a two-hour blood glucose test. He said I probably had gestational diabetes, given the size of Grape, and he was going to treat me on this basis. Based on my carefully-kept spreadsheet, he thought my blood sugars were actually very well controlled, apart from one or two high readings, showing I'd gone about as far as I could on diet. He acted like (and I'm speculating here) it was all rather strange and is referring me to an endocrinology specialist. He thinks I'll probably end up on metformin, but doesn't want to speculate. In particular, he was open to the idea I might get the Type I antibody tests.

I was sufficiently relieved that - as I had mild ketosis on my urine test (we agreed it was probably just because I hadn't had lunch) - I went to Natural Kitchen with my mum to celebrate with a decaf cappuccino with almond milk, Teriyaki salmon, and loads of cooked & green salad [Mostly a good plan. DS came too and rejected his very expensive cheese/ham croissant].

[NB: my blood sugar was *still* 6.5 after running with the dog for 30 minutes, running downhill to my dance aerobics class because I was late, doing a dance aerobics class for an hour, jogging back up a 17% hill, travelling to my appointment on the tube, eating lunch, and then walking for nearly 30-40 minutes back to another tube].
 
#112 ·
Hi all
London I saw your two posts this morning and I'm glad you have been able to speak to a consultant and have a proper conversation about your blood sugar.
You must be feeling relieved.
Wow, I am amazed that you manage 7 hours of cardio with a job a small child and a bump. I can't imagine fitting in anything like that. You sound very committed and organised.
Do you find it helps with any of your immune issues.
I have read that exercise can impact the immune system, but it's quite complex.
I hope the house is all looking good. That cornicing sounds divine.
Aggie have you had any more thoughts about baby showers? My friends are talking about January.
Not really sure what people do. Was thinking about booking a big table at a nearby cafe (frequented by large groups of mums - good cake and not too expensive)
Had a midwife's appointment today. Blood pressure good and got bloods taken. She said I was measuring 26 weeks (I'm 28+3). Think it's the transverse position?
The antenatal classes start in a week, only 3,but in the afternoon. I feel bad taking time, but might go to the one about birth interventions because of the induction possibility. I don't know!?

 
#113 ·
Hi ladies I am hoping you are all well, I am going to catch up on all your posts in a little bit. I just wanted to come over and say hi and let you know all is well with me and bump.

We have had a few ups and downs over the last few weeks, mainly down to the midwife missing things during my appointments. I hadn't seen my midwife since 26 weeks which was okay but at that appointment she told me it was too soon to measure my bump and it would be done the following appointment at 28 weeks during my glucose test. However because I transferred to a different hospital they refused to measure me stating they would prefer my community midwife to do it. I was meant to see my community midwife at 31 weeks but due to reduced movements and having to visit the hospital one evening they found my glucose was high and I had to go in for a second GTT test the day I was meant to see my midwife. When I told her I had to go in she cancelled my appointment and said the hospital would measure me. Of course because I was only there for a blood test they didn't and I missed out yet again.

I ended up back in the hospital at 32 weeks and 2 days because I had been itching like mad and luckily they measured me then, I was measuring at two weeks ahead of where I am which they weren't too concerned about but they were very annoyed that no one else has measured me. This caused them to book me in for a growth scan on the 9th Dec where I will be 36 weeks and 2 days.

I saw my midwife last week at 33 weeks and 4 days and she refused to measure me again because I had been measured the week before, she didn't seem at all concerned I have only been measured once! After I had seen her I spoke to my mother on the phone who asked what position the baby was in and was shocked to hear the midwife hadn't felt my bump, hadn't checked what position he was in and hadn't listened to his heart beat.

All this stuff with my midwife missing things or being told she is missing things has had me a little stressed out which I know won't be good for the baby. This is the first time I have ever gone through this so I don't know what is meant to happen at each appointment. My next appointment with the midwife is Wednesday 4th but she didn't actually tell me what time my appointment is so I need to give her a ring.

In better news I had my baby shower on the 17th Nov and it was lovely, my family were there and all my friends and it was great to celebrate with everyone. And we received some lovely gifts from everyone. I'm counting down to my maternity and it can't come quick enough, I'm getting very tired very quickly lately.
 
#114 ·
Okay. Everyone. So I did my OGTT and I have gestational diabetes. Way worse than you, Aggieblue - it was 10.9 after 2 hours, which appears to be 0.2 points off being diagnosed with Type 1 or Type 2 diabetes instead of GD.

I wasn't surprised at all TBH. I did a lot of monitoring yesterday as, with the OGTT in the morning, my mealtimes were out of sync. I measured my blood glucose every hour for four hours and found out that my wonderful low GI lunch had spiked my blood sugar to 9.3... except after three hours, rather than one or two. At this point, my DH started wondering if I had Type 1-like symptoms (i.e. grossly inefficient insulin production) so we ran a test this morning where I calculated the number of grams of carbohydrates in my breakfast and then measured glucose until I got a spike. I ate a low-carb breakfast, i.e. omelette, five cherry tomatoes, full-fat yoghurt and nuts - I estimated the total carbs as 18.5g. DH calculated, based on the conversion given to his Type I diabetic sister, that this should raise my blood sugar by 1.85 points. Hey presto, the spike was - within the measurement accuracy of the monitor - around 2 points higher than my resting glucose.

What this means is that, basically, I have grossly inadequate insulin production. A low GI diet and protein/fat 'pairing' (which you'll see on GD websites) is actually useless to me because, if I have 10 grams of carbs, it doesn't matter if it's in Lucozade or All-Bran - the glucose just arrives later with the latter (because my body can't do anything with it whether it arrives quickly or slowly). This is, in DH's view, something that looks a lot like Type 1-like diabetes, not Type 2. In classic Type 1, you are eventually hospitalised because once you have almost no insulin, the glucose stays in your blood indefinitely until, eventually, it builds up to pathological levels.

We are obviously speculating, but it looks like I just can't produce enough insulin - for whatever reason - to keep up with the demands of pregnancy, as the body demands more insulin to overcome insulin resistance. This could be due to autoimmune damage to the pancreas (Type I) or some kind of Type 2 mechanism linked to systemic inflammation (which, for a non-obese woman is basically also autoimmune).

I'm due to see an endocrinology specialist on Monday but, in the meantime, I'm having to be on what's basically the Atkins Diet (i.e. ultra low carb) and then go running after every meal to get rid of the glucose. I did check this was okay with my consultant as it's only Thursday - he thought it would be okay until Monday. Obviously, this isn't diet controllable and, if it got dramatically worse without being treated, my DH tells me that either Grape would die or I would end up with so few food options that didn't spike my blood sugar (before the invention of insulin, the last tolerable food was boiled cabbage) that I would die of starvation before he was born.

[And, yes, folks, I did spike to ~8.0 after two hours with an omelette and some high-protein yoghurt].

whatonearth said:
Wow, I am amazed that you manage 7 hours of cardio with a job a small child and a bump. I can't imagine fitting in anything like that. You sound very committed and organised.
Do you find it helps with any of your immune issues.
Whatonearth - I originally started exercising intensively to self-medicate my undiagnosed autoimmune disease as suppresses my immune system. I used to run for 2 hours a day straight after lunch, and the half hour afterwards was the only time I didn't have fatigue and brain fog (that sounds bonkers, I admit). It also used to help me sleep (otherwise, I had fever and insomnia all the time). When my immune problem is under control, I find I don't need to exercise as much.

I have the advantage of having a lot of childcare and a job with flexible hours. My mum and my DH's mum help out, and I also have a part-time nanny and send my DS to nursery once a week.

S_Lauren24 said:
Hi ladies I am hoping you are all well, I am going to catch up on all your posts in a little bit. I just wanted to come over and say hi and let you know all is well with me and bump.

We have had a few ups and downs over the last few weeks, mainly down to the midwife missing things during my appointments. I hadn't seen my midwife since 26 weeks which was okay but at that appointment she told me it was too soon to measure my bump and it would be done the following appointment at 28 weeks during my glucose test. However because I transferred to a different hospital they refused to measure me stating they would prefer my community midwife to do it. I was meant to see my community midwife at 31 weeks but due to reduced movements and having to visit the hospital one evening they found my glucose was high and I had to go in for a second GTT test the day I was meant to see my midwife. When I told her I had to go in she cancelled my appointment and said the hospital would measure me. Of course because I was only there for a blood test they didn't and I missed out yet again.

I ended up back in the hospital at 32 weeks and 2 days because I had been itching like mad and luckily they measured me then, I was measuring at two weeks ahead of where I am which they weren't too concerned about but they were very annoyed that no one else has measured me. This caused them to book me in for a growth scan on the 9th Dec where I will be 36 weeks and 2 days.
That sounds really annoying :mad: And I really think you need to be pushing for a measurement. It's kinda late at 36 weeks to find out how big/small your baby is going to be, especially as - by bump measurement alone - Grape is not measuring large (my consultant guessed it was because I'm thin and he was transverse).
 
#115 ·
UPDATE: DH has been here all day to help with DS, as we have floor sanding people and a decorator in today.

He did have plans, but they've been overtaken by events so he's spent most of the day teaching me how to temporarily control bad GD with diet alone. Amazingly, it has worked so far. I actually had a reading of 3.7/4.0 today and it's been under 5.3 for hours. It is a brutal process that is never going to gain widespread popularity. Basically, plan is to use an Atkin's Diet Phase I (induction) diet plan to keep the blood sugars very low and, if I want to exercise, I have to deliberately eat a weighed carb with the number of grams of carbs adjusted to the likely calorie consumption of the exercise to avoid a hypo. If the number goes over target, I have to take the dog for a run for a prescribed period of time. I'm testing up to 15 times a day to enforce this - plus a once-per-day Ketone urine test. If the Ketone test goes dark (i.e. bad ketosis), I have to go to A&E.

Obviously, I'm hoping to only carry on until Monday because this isn't long term sustainable, but - cross fingers - it should work until I can get hold of some insulin.
 
#116 ·
Hi all,
London, I'm glad you have an answer, the speculation was spiralling.
I was wondering about the cardio as I did use exercise to lower my slightly raised nk cells, although my main issue was the nk bright/tregs but very few fertility doctors care about measuring those.

Re the diet - a colleagues at work is on the keto diet because her type 1 boyfriend has been using it to control his symptoms. He rarely uses insulin and also rarely exercises, just walking to work and back.
They are both in their early twenties, so should be in relatively good health.
just wanted to drop that in there as a bit of anecdotal info.
They do seem to eat a lot of meat and fish. I dont think I could do it following their menu, perhaps a more veggie style is possible?
They even avoid veg such as aubergines - too many carbs! No milk, but a lot of cheese .
Did you find any more research on ketosis and pregnancy?
I have the transverse effect, reducing effect too. Eventually, I will have to start sitting properly on an exercise ball and stop slumping around, but not until 30 weeks or something.
Lauren, that being punted around sounds so frustrating. The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing by the sound of things.
The tummy measurement is a bit inaccurate from what I have read.
Are you due a scan to check your baby's position and get measurements?
It might be worth a private scan?
I will be scanned twice before my due date. I'm hoping to use the results to get my baby into the best position. It might not work, but Ill give it a go.
The baby shower sounds lovely. Im glad it went so well.



 
#117 ·
Londonwriter, what a nightmare! i'm sorry you have to deal with this on top of everything else. hopefully medication will ease this for you next week.

Lauren, wow such incompetence. i don't think the measuring of the bump is very accurate but it's strange not to even listen to the baby's heartbeat. her job is to check that everything is going well, how can she be sure without checking? i'm glad to hear both you and bump are otherwise well :)

whatonearth, what anenatal classes did you manage to book in the end?

anyone else is getting Braxton-Hicks contractions yet? Mine started a few days ago, it's such a weird feeling and also makes me feel like sh*t is getting real!!
 
#118 ·
Hi all,
Aggie omg that is scary. What does it feel like to have Braxton Hicks feel like. I honestly don't remember anything with my son.
London how are things. Not long until you will be able to be properly medicated and supported for the remainder of your pregnancy.
London and Aggie will  you have more scans to monitor the size of your babies as part of the monitoring process?
 
#119 ·
Aggieblue said:
Lauren, wow such incompetence. i don't think the measuring of the bump is very accurate but it's strange not to even listen to the baby's heartbeat. her job is to check that everything is going well, how can she be sure without checking? i'm glad to hear both you and bump are otherwise well :)

anyone else is getting Braxton-Hicks contractions yet? Mine started a few days ago, it's such a weird feeling and also makes me feel like sh*t is getting real!!
It is such a nightmare that she isn't doing things that she should be doing. She just asks me about movements and that is all. Thank you, I'm just glad the baby is okay.

What do braxton-hicks meant to feel like? I don't think I've had anything like that yet. Roughly around 6.30pm/7pm I get a little bit of period pain but nothing too bad, I haven't felt any tightenings or anything.
whatonearth said:
Lauren, that being punted around sounds so frustrating. The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing by the sound of things.
The tummy measurement is a bit inaccurate from what I have read.
Are you due a scan to check your baby's position and get measurements?
It might be worth a private scan?
I will be scanned twice before my due date. I'm hoping to use the results to get my baby into the best position. It might not work, but Ill give it a go.
The baby shower sounds lovely. Im glad it went so well.
There definitely is a sense of the left and right hand are doing completely different things.
I just wish they had been checking measurements from when they were meant to.
I'm only having a scan at 36 weeks so they can make sure they baby isn't too big or too small because I haven't been checked properly.
 
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Aggie - no Braxton Hicks yet. But, to be honest, I don't remember having any with DS so I'm probably not a good guide  :-[

Whatonearth - yes, apparently I will have regular scans to check the size of the baby and incase of extra fluid, etc.  I have cheered up a lot now I'm following DH's temporary Atkin's Phase I diet. So far, we've managed to keep the numbers largely in range (so between 3.7 minimum fasting and 6.8 maximum after a meal) for more than 24 hours. During this time, I did a whole 45-minute gym class, ran with the dog (and walked him multiple times), and cycled for 2 hours to collect my son from nursery. I have a lot more energy than I usually do as well. Obviously, the diet is not sustainable for more than a few days as I'm only eating as many carbs as I need for exercise, but I don't feel I'm fighting a monster right now. I'm just crossing my fingers that we can get through the weekend with nothing weird happening...  ^pray^

Lauren - sorry this is happening :( Can you get in touch with them and push them to make the measurements?
 
#121 ·
Hi all,
Lauren, I’m glad to hear you will be having a scan. How many weeks are you now? Sorry amnesia.
Aggie I forgot to say, there are three weeks of NHS classes, one is for normal birth, one for interventions and one for taking the baby home.
I know my employer is very short staffed so I will probably just go to the intervention class, as I am being advised to go with induction.
London, thats great that you are feeling good with the new regime. You will be so fit and healthy that baby will fly out!
Is anyone remembering to do kegels?
I try to remember, but am struggling with anything to add to my routine. My son having trouble at school and tries to avoid and the decorating still trundles on. I don’t have much family support, so its all me.
I know it’s important, anyone got any tips, to help me remember?
 
#122 ·
whatonearth, that's nice your NHS course is more sessions, mine was just one long sunday. but yes since it's not your first child, you'll probably be fine with interventions only. i am obsessed with information so i just want to know everything!
Braxton Hicks doesn't feel like much to be honest, just your bump going very hard for 10-20 seconds. you do feel a slight weird contracting sensation but nothing painful. i think most people wouldn't even notice it, especially if they're busy all day.
i also keep forgetting those pelvic floor exercises! should really put a reminder on my phone or something.
i am also getting more scans although not sure why, scans at 28, 32 and 36 weeks instead of the usual 36 weeks only, but these were booked way before my GD diagnosis.

Lauren, maybe book a private scan for your own peace of mind?

London, let us know how your meeting went today with the specialist!

AFM, i had a group of friends over on Saturday and was given a couple of things, including an absolutely HUGE pregnancy pillow. it's amazing, i sleep much better and spent most of my sunday in bed snoozing. I could easily do that in the next two months (but i did force myself to do an hour exercise in the evening). i'm now taking extra iron and b12 but my energy is not back at all. think i'm succumbing to the third trimester exhaustion. i'm 30 weeks today so only 10 weeks to go  ^eyes^
 
#123 ·
whatonearth said:
Hi all,
Lauren, I'm glad to hear you will be having a scan. How many weeks are you now? Sorry amnesia.
No worries, I'm 35 weeks and 2 days today so I am getting quite close to the end now.

Aggieblue said:
Lauren, maybe book a private scan for your own peace of mind?
By the time I book a private scan now I will have already had a scan on the NHS so I'm not too worried.

I have an appointment to see my midwife again on Wednesday so I'm going to make sure she measures me this time and checks to see what position the baby is in. Other than that there really isn't much going on with me. I just feel like I'm waiting for the baby to arrive now. I have started washing the babies clothes but the only problem I am finding I am having is I can't seem to organise the different sizes, I need to work out a better system. There really isn't much I need to sort out for the baby now, the only things I don't have is a baby bath and a thermometer for the room.

Aggie - I'm glad to heart your sleeping better with your pregnancy pillow. I feel you with the third trimester exhaustion, time flies by when you are having fun doesn't it. I can't believe you only have 10 weeks left!
 
#124 ·
Hi all,
Aggie that big group sounds lovely. I'm glad you arw getting some quality sleep, growing that baby. You can join a gym after he's here (it is a boy isnt it?)
What position do you usually sleep in?
Ill check how often kegels should be done then set the timer. Will report back.
Lauren baby clothes are so gorgeous. I remember going a bit mad with my DS. It was fun. Now I've had the fun this baby will be a bit more minimal. My DS is extremely messy so too many clothes might tip me over the brink.
Just my opinion, I hated using my baby bath, it destroyed my back. I used to run a luke warm bath and DP would hand me DS. It was to encourage him to feed (he was rubbish) but he quite liked the big bath and took to swimming like a silly duck. Possibly linked?
I had a kind of bath float which I could pop him onto so that I could have a wash. Chucked it out and now have to buy a new one!!
How are you feeling?
I have been tired, probably because work is pretty busy and barely moved on Sunday. Was very cold though. Brrr,
 
#125 ·
Whatonearth - I've been debating for a while about getting a baby bath or to just find something to pop in our bath but our bath has an odd angle to it and a glass covering blocking most of the bath so I think it will cause a bit of a problem bathing the baby. Plus the toilet would probably get in the way. We do want to get a new bathroom suite but I'm not sure if it is going to happen any time soon. It's typical you throw things out thinking you won't need it and then find yourself wishing you had kept it.
I'm feeling very tired lately. I've dropped down to 3 days a week in work and officially go on maternity leave after Friday 13th. It can't come quick enough.
It has been very cold lately I just want to stay wrapped up in a blanket all day. What do you do for work? If you don't mind me asking. It can get very tough when work gets busy so I feel you, make sure you are getting plenty of me time.
 
#126 ·
Hi all,
Lauren, I know what got mean about the cold. Its better now than it was, but I felt as if I couldn't get moving at all at the weekend.
I work in a library/IT support role, so I'm on a helpdesk, but also walk around the building a lot. It's s nice mix usually, so I can sit when I want. Sometimes, I end up standing a lot as we have standing 'pods' with terrible seats that dont adjust.
That's not long until your maternity leave starts.
How many weeks will you be then?
You must be counting down.
when is your official due date?
I think those tummy tubs are supposed to be good for bathing, easier to fill and carry then a regular baby bath. Or there's always the bathroom sink?
Babies aren't big fans of being undressed so the quicker the better.
 
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