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Well, it's official, my blood test came back today ZERO. I have not been posting too much, tried to keep low key for my 3rd 2WW, 3 times lucky...etc. I had a 6dt with 2 fresh "perfect" embryos at IVI in Madrid. My hopes were so high. We have 2 frozen embies left but to go back and try again without more investigation seems ridiculous. Last 2 times were with fresh then frozen  and 3dt. I had surgery in 2009 to repair scarring, my lining thickens as it should. 


I have to say it does feel really strange to begin the meds having not seen a doctor here and then pitch up there for the transfer. Maybe it's just me. I would love to hear from anyone else who is in or has had a similar situation. I want to go now and have a full gyno test exam and may also pursue the whole immune testing and the Hidden Chlamydia test. My consultant here does not believe in the immune testing so I think I need to find one who does or who is at least prepared to help me start eliminating what the problem might be instead of saying "Just try again"


I know I am one of the oldest women on here but I pride myself on being in really good overall health otherwise and the eggs are super quality from a young woman. I just happened to meet the man I wanted to have a family with at 42. Now it seems as if my dream is slipping further away from me. If anyone can give me just a sliver of hope I would really be so grateful. I'm looking for the silver lining but coming up empty handed today ladies.


Thanks for listening, s xx ^hugme^ 
 

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im so sorry to hear about your news.
i would definately recommend immune testing. Dr Gorgy in london has experience in treating ED ladies who have tx abroad and i agree i would go the whole way and have EVER test done. it may take a while and will def cost you alot of money but it will def work once you body is ready to recieve an embryo
good luck
 

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Hi SSS

So sorry to read your news, devastated must be an understatement  ^hugme^

I just wanted to try and give you some hope!  We are currently having tx with Serum in Athens and Penny (the clinic director) is a great believer in rigorous testing & finding out the reasons WHY someone hasn't conceived rather than just chucking more money at the problem & hoping for the best.  There is a lady on our thread (in the Greece section) who, altho didn't go to Serum, went to a diff clinic in the same building who has had a bfp at 49.  I'm sure she would be happy to give you some  ^reiki^  and encouragement.

Also, there are lots of ladies on there who are dealing with complex immune issues so you might find some useful tips or ideas to help you think about what to do next??

I'll try to post you the link to our thread, you are more than welcome to join us!

Lots of love

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Im an older lady (45) and look at my signature- Ive had loads of cycles, Im on my 4th DE cycle- just got a positive, there's nothing particlulalry wrong, I had 3 kids naturally when I was younger...unfortunately it is getting the lining and drugs right and a good bit of luck..... just keep going...one thing is sure....it wont happen if you give up..... :)
This cycle I did have a load of drugs thrown in for good measure- I didnt have the immune testing but my clinic gave me the drugs they give to ladies with immune issues ( steroids- prednisolone) and blood thinner -clexane and asprin,progynova, estradot, crinone, it seemed to do the trick, fingers crossed all goes ok.
dont be disheartened you will get there, right drugs right lining and you will get BFP...go back for those snow babies.... just make the docs alter your drug regime give them a hard time make them work for the cash ;D  you pay them!!...ask lost of questions and be satisfied with the answers- you are paying them for a service, they should work for their money, not just make you a 'routine' patient.......
good luck ^reiki^


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there are aload of older ladies on the TTC over 40 thread...there is a sub thread 'anyone over 45' try its very encouraging
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Sorry to hear of your recent BFN  ^hugme^ ^hugme^

I do think that if 3 DE cycles have not worked, this is probably an indication of underlying issues rather than bad luck....most clinics will give 80-90% success rates within 3 cycles - so if it's not working by then it does seem to suggest there is something else going on

As Lily says, the cheapest/easiest option would be to simply adopt the 'basic' immune protocol for your next cycle and see if that helps - ie clexane, aspirin, prednisolone....
But if you want to be sure you've covered all your bases, then the full immune testing would be recommended to see if you need IVIG/intrallipids, humira etc. And there is also the hidden C test for chlamydia which may be worth exploring too

I'm seeing Dr Gorgy for my immune tx and he's very easy to work with alongside overseas clinics. It's expensive and time consuming (blood tests etc) but has been worth it in the end  :)  Although I should say even with full immune protocol it's taken me 3 attempts (2 fresh, one frozen) with DE so there is still an element of luck even with the full immune drugs etc

Wishing you the very best of luck with next steps
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Thanks SO much everyone for your good advice, links and recommendations, it has really boosted my spirits after a rather "flat" weekend. I am now keen to look at my Plan B and start taking steps to figure out what to do. I may be down, but not out yet!!


Best wishes and a big  ^hugme^ to each and every one of you.


Love,


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Hello Sasasee,
I am also 48 & in a similar position to you. I have tried DE once (after IVF & Fets x 3) & it didn't work so now I am looking into extra testing for my unexplained infertility (apart from my age of eggs ofcourse). I think there are too many fertility docs out there who have a 'one size fits all' approach, & just assume it is our age which is the problem, which ofcourse it could be, but may not be. I don't want to throw more money at DE if there is an underlying problem so I am seeing both Dr Gorgy & Dr Thum (Lister) next week for an initial consultation to see what they both suggest. I will let you know how I get on. Keep positive if you can. I know only too well how devasted I was last time when the DE didn't work, but I like the comment on this thread by somebody who has said that you definitely won't succeed if you don't keep trying. Ofcourse it is very much a personal decision how many times you can put yourself through hoping with the potential for huge dissappointment when it doesn't work. For me, I just don't feel I have tried all options, never having had more than routine tests (all fine) & only having tried DE once.

Very very good luck to you & all FFs
Helenx  ^rainbow^
 

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Hi SaSaSee

just a quick one, but wanted to let you have some encouragement. I know a lady who had healthy DE twins last Xmas a few days after her 50th birthday. A few ladies I know who are still trying over 40 have had doppler flow studies done as a thick lining does not necessarily mean that it has an adequate flow of blood to support a pregnancy. Drug regimes (often viagra) visibly improves the flow of blood.

I hope 2011 will be the year when your dreams come true.

Caroline
 
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