Fertility Friends Support Forum banner

1 - 13 of 13 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I am a 36 year old who has had 4 cycles of ICSI using MESA sperm over the last 5 years or so. Had 3 BFN's and one ectopic which resulted in losing one fallopian tube. No problems with me other that a slightly high FSH level (7.7 at last test).

Decided 12 months ago that couldn't face another ICSI cycle so discarded MESA sperm. Have now had a rethink and decided would like to try donor insemination. Told that would have a 5% chance of success and up to a 4 year wait for a donor in this country -and that our best chance would be IVF with donor sperm - but still only a 15% chance. Naturally I found these statistics devastating but decided I am not ready to give up yet - so am thinking about going to Spain.

Just wondered if there is anyone out there that has done IUI with Donor sperm with only one fallopian tube and had any success? And if anyone has used Ceram for IUI. I have read some good and some bad reports on Ceram on the website so would welcome most up to date opinion on them.

Any info would be gratefully recieved.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
905 Posts
I'm so sorry you have had such a terrible time.  I don't know who told you that you might wait 4 years for donor sperm in the UK but they are wrong!  Six months perhaps, but definitely not 4 years.  I suspect it may be a clinic that has a political reason for putting a pessimistic spin on the donor sperm situation in this country.  Ring around, you will find a clinic happy and willing to treat you in a reasonable time scale...use the HFEA web site for details of all UK clinics www.hfea.gov.uk
Best wishes
Olivia


/links
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
940 Posts
Molly
Sorry you've had such a bad time.  As olivia szys 4 years is a long time and i think it unfair to have told you that.  We found out we would need to use donor sperm a year ago and in October 2006 joind a waiting list at our clinic, we were told it would be 6 months.  We reached the top of the list in May, so 7 months.  I dont think thats too bad at all.  Our clinic now recruits its own donors.  If you ring around the clinics and ask how long there waiting lists are, and then find the one you like the best.  Unfrotunatly we have to travel 2 1/2 hours to get to ours as they did not recruit donors locally when we first started.

I really don't think you'll have to wait that long.

Good luck
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
713 Posts
sorry to hear you've been through such a rough time.

our nhs clinic in glasgow has no sperm and the last i called them which i think was april they still had none, were only in talks about starting up their own donor clinic so it'd be a year at the very minimum.  we've since started tx at Nuffield which has started up their own donor clinic and is doing well.

so call around and find out the different clinics in your area and what they're situation is.

good luck...x

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
15 Posts
Hi

Just read your thread about going to Spain for donor sperm,my husband has a zero sperm count so our only hope is donor sperm,Spain is supposed to be the place to go!apparently its not only annonymous but also cheaper,I looked up a clinic in Barcelona which was very informative and easy to understand,I often find some of the technical terms abit mind boggling!!!anyway this clinc recommends IVF not IUI with donor sperm,I to am 36 so I know I will have more of a chance with IVF!!

My sister also has one fallopian tube after a pregnancy,she had unexplained infertility and eventually got pregnant on Ivf and then had another one naturally!!!!miracles do happen!!

We are now waiting for a consultation from a clinic that we have been refered to,I feel like we have been waiting for ages,I desperately want to get the ball rolling!!

Good luck with what ever you decide and if you do go abroad please let me know and i'll do the same.

Take care

Angie

Mollym said:
I am a 36 year old who has had 4 cycles of ICSI using MESA sperm over the last 5 years or so. Had 3 BFN's and one ectopic which resulted in losing one fallopian tube. No problems with me other that a slightly high FSH level (7.7 at last test).

Decided 12 months ago that couldn't face another ICSI cycle so discarded MESA sperm. Have now had a rethink and decided would like to try donor insemination. Told that would have a 5% chance of success and up to a 4 year wait for a donor in this country -and that our best chance would be IVF with donor sperm - but still only a 15% chance. Naturally I found these statistics devastating but decided I am not ready to give up yet - so am thinking about going to Spain.

Just wondered if there is anyone out there that has done IUI with Donor sperm with only one fallopian tube and had any success? And if anyone has used Ceram for IUI. I have read some good and some bad reports on Ceram on the website so would welcome most up to date opinion on them.

Any info would be gratefully recieved.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Thanks to everyone that has replied - I think you are right about certain clinics putting a negative spin on donor sperm - the clinic I attend are also pretty negative about IUI (I personally think it is because they see IVF as a bit of a money making machine - but that could just be my warped cynical view about it all!)

We are still deciding what to do and may look at another clinic here in the UK before trying Spain - but having done some research into Spain there appears to be no waiting list and not much to choose in price between there and here so it might be the way to go as I am not getting any younger - as I was reminded by my Consultant at my last appointment!

Thanks again everyone - you have all been very helpful - and good luck to all of you.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,048 Posts
Make sure you check the legal position too before you make a decision. 

The UK legal parenthood rules will definitely apply as they specifically say that it doesn't matter whether you are in the UK or not when you have the fertility treatment.  So you and your partner will be the legal parents in the same way as if you had the treatment here.

But the rules as to the donor's and your child's rights may be different.  It's something I need to look into further, but you should be aware that if you use a foreign donor, the UK rules on identifiability and the HFEA register might not apply.  Whether you have treatment here or in Spain could therefore impact on what your future child will be able to find out about the donor, and could be important when the time comes.

Natalie
[email protected]
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
Hi molly, really sorry 2 hear all of the hard times u have had. We have had 4 icsi goes. The 3rd preg but miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am in barcelona at the mo. Just had the bfn for the 4th icsi and here on my own. Dh has antibodies. Thinking of donor sperm hear in spain. They had suggested de but as yet no info on why more likely me than him. I am 39. With reoccuring probs icsi how do they know? Alwayr had 2 embryos 2 put back. Help! How do i know which option. Deliliah4
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,400 Posts
Actually, with the NHS 3 or 4 years is about right.  From my GP referring me,I waited almost a year to eee the specialist and was then put on another waiting list whcih I was told was about 9months long (that time periods seemed very apropriate somehow) but it turned into two years.  (So thats three years) At that point they decided to tell me I was too overweight for treatment and that they could not go ahead until I lost 3 stone.  Which i did but it took a further year. (Why they couldn't have told me about the weight problem earlier is anyone's guess)

However, that is NHS.  I was told that if I chose to go private I would be treated almost immediately - that wasn't an option for us as we had no way of finding the money.

If you are looking at private treatment, I would definitely make a few phone calls to private clinics and compare what they tell you.

Whatever you decide, i wish you good luck.

Kehlan
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Hi Delilah4. Sorry to hear you have had your 4th BFN - and being out there on your own must be very tough for you. Looking through some of the info about de, they are usually from proven donors I think so possibly increases chance of success - but I don't know that for sure! We were told that our chances might be improved by using donor sperm as dh MESA sperm was not the best quality.

Kehlan - thanks for your advice about phoning different clinics - I have had my 1 NHS go that you are entitled to in Leeds so would be going privately yet was still told the wait for sperm was for 4 years at Leeds! I got the feeling it seemed to be something that they wouldn't consider as they quoted such low chances of success - much lower than anywhere else on the internet is quoting! Good luck with your NHS treatment- I hope you loose your weight - it does seem a bit rubbish that they didn't tell you you needed to loose weight when you started out!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,400 Posts
It took me a year to lose the weight but I did manage it - is funny what you can achieve given enough incentive!

ONE Attempt on the NHS!!!!???

I didn't realise there were such differences between regions - this should really brought up with our MP's.  Someone here told me Merseyside give three goes and I thought that was bad. We get 12 goes at Peterborough.  (Its unmedicated but with double basting they claim an 80% success rate over the course of 12 treatments) The right to treatment should not be a postcode lottery!

Kehlan

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
Hi molly, thanks 4 the reply. I had 2 go to the clinic this am 2 try and arrange an appointment to discuss de and ds. They still wanted 2 do a preg test despite a neg urine test and having a heavy period wasn't sure whether to admire their optimisim or cry. Just want 2 find the info and go home.  i tel the donor conception network and they were really helpful. Delilah4
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
721 Posts
mikey girl had donor egg and sperm( her husband is disabled) and on 13th try is now 22 weeks pg.  :)she went to my clinic, Institute Marques in barcelona. they advertise for egg and sperm donors widely and succesfully., they told me in thir culture is the same as blood donation. :eek:

no wait for donor eggs so likely the same for sperm

best wishes

coco
 
1 - 13 of 13 Posts
Top