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Hi,
I'm new to this site and wondered if there is anyone who is due to start ICSI or IVF at the end of January?

I would love to have a cycle buddy as I am terrified at the thought of starting the treatment although I am really excited at the same time! It would be great to have someone to talk things through with.

Katherine x
 

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Hi Katherine

Welcome to the site.

I have found it to be extremely useful to me over the last few months. All the girls are so lovely and full of lots of information (as I have not been through this before - yet!).

I like yourself, am due to start IVF at the end of Jan, the 31st to be precise. I am feeling very scared and excited a the same time.

How about you?

I know there is a December/January thread going for all IVF'ers etc, I am sure there will soon be a Jan/Feb one.

Hope to hear from you soon

Take care
Many best wishes
Love
Louise
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Hi only me again

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Many apologies, I notice that there now is a Jan/Feb Cycle Buddies...

See you there!!!

Love
Louise
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Hi Katherine. I'm also new here and I will be starting my injections in January - also doing an ICSI. I've just had a failed IVF - in fact, didn't even get there as I produced 6 follicles - which turned out to be 3 follicles and a LARGE cyst. Had the ovum pick up - but no eggs! I did the whole injections routine, the clomid, the blood tests, the internal ultrasounds and was ABSOLUTELY devastated. I (per se) do not have a fertility problem that I know of - so I was devastated by the no eggs. If I can give you one piece of advice - it doesn't work every time. I had read about this, but nobody actually stressed this point to me. I was so convinced that it would work the first time for me. I'd planned everything - right down to the maternity leave. And it didn't work for me first time. I'm being downregulated with one shot of Lucrin (Lupron) on the 17th December and then starting the Pergonal (Gonal F) injections on the 2nd Jan. Clomid did nothing for me. Good luck and wish me luck too.
 

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Welcome to you all and all the best for your cycles in the new year!

As Louise said, there is now a Dec/Jan board and a Jan/Feb board and you wont be on your own going through this!

Fire away with any questions and someone will always be able to provide you with either guidance or an answer and tell you that you are normal!

Lyn, sorry to hear that you've had a bad cycle, but not every cycle is the same, so fingers crossed for the next one! :-*

GOOD LUCK
Love Sue
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Thank You all for welcoming me!

Lyn- I am sorry to hear that you had a bad cycle and I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you and hope we will be of support to each other! I am like you in the respect that the doctors have told me that I am a healthy 28 year old and the prospects look good and so I find I have to keep my feet on the ground and not be too much of a dreamer!!! I think it is good to have a positive attitude but also to be prepared for the worst!
Would you mind me asking why you need treatment?
I am due to start a short cycle of ICSI at the end of Jan which means I won't be down regging will start with the stim drugs on the first day of my cycle. Has anyone any experience of this?

Love Katherine x
 
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Hi Katherine. I presume because of your age and your need for ICSI that you have a clean bill of health and that the problem is with your partner. I am the same. My partner is quite a lot older than I am and had a vasectomy too many years ago to reverse. Because of my age (34 is old -fertility wise) my doc wanted to stimulate me with Clomid and Pergonal to guarantee more follicles. I had a laparoscopy, hysteroscopy and a D+C and everything was 100% - thus the hope that everything would go right first time. The Clomid didn't work for me - which is apparently common and the Pergonal managed an extra two follicles but not ovums. I don't know what treatment you are going to be on but mine was as follows: 1 folic acid and 1 ecotrin daily starting from day 1. Ecotrin is a type of Asprin - not sure if these names are universal. Then on day 3 to day 6 I had two clomid tablets daily. My prolactin levels were high so I took half a parlodel tablet daily. Then from day 5 I started with 2 ampules of Pergonal daily until they did the pick up. Side effects from the Parlodel were a bit of tiredness but other that this I had NO side effects other than feeling a bit grumpy and irritated. When they did the pick up the doc noticed a bit of endo which could have been caused by the drugs as it wasn't there beforehand. So thus the down regulating. I am nervous about this as apparently the Lucrin shot (Lupron, Synarel) does have quite a few side effects like nausea, mood swings and hot flushes. I need this like a hole in the head as it is summer here and I live in central South Africa where it's very,very hot!

What treatment are you going to be on and when does your cycle start.

Cheers
Lynne
 

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Hi Lynn,

Our situation seems to be quite similar in that there is an age gap of 16 years between myself and ny husband and he too had a vascetomy many years ago. He had it reversed about 18 months ago but unfortunately it wasn't successful and my doctor has advised us that ICSI will be our best option. I have an appointment with the nurse this week to discuss my treatment although I already know that I am to do a short cycle, which will begin on the first day of my cycle - hopefully at the end of Jan. I believe the drugs will be menopur but I am hoping to find out more this week. I sympathise fully with your concern about the side effects , that is something that I dread as well!! I should think that hot flushes are the last thing you want if you are in the middle of a heatwave- not that we need to worry about that in this country!!!

Katherine x
 
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Hi Katherine

Have you had your appointment yet? If you have, how did it go. If not, good luck. I am sort of twiddling my thumbs now. After having concentrated so hard on my last cycle, I am kind of missing not having something to concentrate on. So now I have to concentrate of work! I am so keen for the New Year to start so that I can start treatment again. I just want to be pregnant but I don't want this whole thing to be come a mission. I just want to be pregnant. I have read so many sad stories about people who have had ivf after ivf after ivf and still no luck. I don't want to be one of those people. I know that I have very little control over the whole thing - but I just want to get on with my life. And have a child. I have now survived one bad cycle - so I know I am alot stronger than I thought I was. But I don't want to have to go through another bad cycle. I found myself laughing today and it was nice! I've just been so sad. This is a very morbid reply. Let me know how you get on.

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Lynne
 

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Hi Lynne,
I'm sorry to hear that you have been feeling down and it is good to hear that you have been laughing. I think it is really important to try and keep positive thoughts although I know it is easier said than done! You sound like you had a really bad cycle last time so hopefully this time will be different and it will work for you. You deserve it. I know what you mean about wanting to start the treatment, it is almost as if you are in limbo waiting. I can't begin to imagine what it must feel like going through the treatment but I would imagine that at least you feel as if you are doing something positive. I have said from the beginning that I really don't want to get so involved that my relationship starts to suffer but the longing inside me to have a child seems to take over everything else!! Does your partner already have children? How is your relationship with them?
My appointment with the nurse went well but it has made me even more keen to start. We have discussed the treatment plan, been shown how to do the injections etc and now all we have to do is wait for my January period to start!
In the meantime I am looking forward to having a great christmas and hoping that 2003 will be our year!

Love Katherine x
 
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Hi Katherine

Start with my down regulating shot tonight - so hot flushes soon to follow. Not looking forward to this. But by startin the down reg - means three weeks closer to the stimulating drugs.

Partner has three children and I get on very well with them. One lives in the UK and the other two are in South Africa. Get on very well but still want my own. He is not so keen on more children and has really had to be persuaded to have the biopsy. They found lots of sperm so he was really chuffed. We haven't been communication like we should and he really hasn't had a clue what I have been going through. Only really been able to talk about my bad cylce now and we have both agreed to talk alot more.

When do you start with your injections?

Lots of love to you
Lynne
 

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Hi Lynne,

How did your first injection go? I have got my fingers crossed for you! At the moment I am finding it really frustrating waiting to start. My first injection will be the day after my Jan period starts which should be around the 26th but the last couple of months I have been irregular( I think it is all the worry) which is unlike me. Of course if my Dec one takes too long to arrive then I may end up starting at the beginning of Jan instead! Confusing!!!
My husband is worried at the moment that when he has his PESA they won't find any sperm and will have to do a biopsy and he has been told it is very painful. It is brilliant news that they found lots of sperm from your partner! How did he find the whole process? And how are you feeling? Any sign of any side effects yet? I hope not!
This is the first time that my husband has indicated that he is worried it may not work, usually he is so positive and I think it has brought me down a little, I just can't shake off a negative feeling at the moment. I wonder if I will ever be a mum and am so scared that I won't. The feeling is so intense and I don't like the fact that I have no control over this. My hubby tries to understand the need in me and he says that he wants this as much as I do but I can't help feeling that at the end of the day he already has children and how can he feel like I do?
Sorry for going on, I am sending you all my positive thoughts and hoping you are well.
Look forward to hearing how you are getting on
Lots of Love Katherine x
 
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Hi Katherine

Injection went fine. Am getting used to all these needles after being seriously petrified on them. My partner, John, is very good at giving injections. He is a diabetic so I think he understands needles.

Re the biopsy. I have the most wonderful fertility specialist and when we went to see him and the urologist for the first time, they both explained the procedure and both assured us that it is very very seldom that sperm isn't found. In fact, after they found out that he already had three children, they weren't concerned at all. It was explained to us that the testicles are made up of thousands of meters of tubes. When a man has a vasectomy, they cut out a piece of the tube (I forget the name) that transports the sperm from the testis to the penis. So the brain still tells the testis to produce the sperm. It just means that their transport has been affected and all the sperm produced just gets reabsorbed into the body. The aspiration process is done with a needle and according to the urologist, is not always effective. The biopsy is. A tiny little piece is cut out of the testes and then they pour out the sperm from one of the little tubes. John had general anaesthetic for this and it really was a minor little procedure. He had no pain at all and apart from a little discomfort, was 100%. We left the hospital at about 4 pm and then went shopping. Went home, showered and changed and then went out to dinner. Next day did everything we normally do. It really was no big deal.

While we were with the doctors, they asked me loads of questions about sexual history, diseases, family fertility problems and he was quite annoyed with them when they only asked him if he had children. The minute he said 3, they stopped asking any other questions.

When we met, I didn't want children and of course, he had had the vasectomy and knew that he couldn't give me any. But deep down inside, I knew I would be missing out. In the last couple of years, I have been mentioning children and now that all my friends have children, I know that I really really want one. I started looking for info on the internet and found out about icsi. I contacted a fertility specialist and got some more info by email and then had to persuade him that this was really what I wanted. We went through quite a bad time and he has agreed , not because he wants children , but because I do. John is a lot older than I am , so he feels that he has done the baby thing. And while I understand his feelings, this just isn't something that one can compromise on. You either have a child or you don't. And I want one. He is being a lot more supportive now that we have talked in depth about it , but I know that he is not keen.

So I've had to deal with quite a few thing lately. I'm really going off track here. I haven't had any side effects yet , but I'm not holding my breath either! Hopefully I'm going to be side effectless! Very wishful thinking.

How many children does your husband have? And do you get on with them? Don't worry about being negative. This is all part of the process. And also keep in mind that IVF does not always work the first time. You have to keep that in mind to avoid a HUGE disappointment if it doesn't work. I wish that someone had told me this because I was completely convinced that it would work first time for me. Does your NHS pay for infertility treatment. We don't have a NHS so its very very expensive.

Let me know how you're feeling and I'm waving baby dust your way.

Lots of good lucks
Lynne
 
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Hi Katherine

Haven't heard from you for a while and was wondering how it's going. Let me know. I have joined the Jan cycle buddies board.

Regards
Lynne
 

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hi katherine .we are hoping to start icsi treatment in jan .already had 2 failed icsi and 1 failed frozen.we are hoping to do the egg sharing scheme .i wish u lots of luck .im keeping my fingers crossed and remaining positive .
 

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Hi Katherine

I am fairly new to this board and I too am starting ICSI in January!!
I am 28 and my DH is 34, unfortunately it is my poor DH with the problem so we are both scheduled to go through a procedure on the same day..........me for egg collection and DH for his biopsy where they hope to retrieve some sperm.

Will know exact dates better in December but it will be around 20th January. I am very nervous as it is the one and only ICSI we will be doing before moving straight to Donor insemination........I am praying so hard as it is our only chance!

Good luck to all!

Ps Where is the Jan cycle buddies board.......I am being really stupid and don't know where to look!!

JenFxx :-[
 

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Hi all, welcome to the fertility board, i seem to be a permanant resident!

As you can see 2 failed, 1 abandoned ICSI and due to have FET Feb (hopefully!) I have to call hospital after xmas and see what they say.

You will soon get in the swing of this board and everyone is soooooo helpful, you nearly always get the answer to the question, and i like speaking to people who don't think i am an alien ^zombie^ ^chuckle^

I am on most of the day ( i have it up in background at work!) so if you wanna chat fire away!

Good luck ^Cuddle^

Zoe x
 

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