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Good evening to all fabulous ARGC ladies,

Georgia, Maureen, Van, Jane, Victoria, Carmela, GM, Emmi, Ruth, Nikki, Kim, Sophia, Tonga, Megan, Emma and all the girls. Thank you so much for all of your good vibes and support.

We are still progressing with the stimms and I had a good phone call today. My hormone levels actually went up rather than down so we may be able to salvage something here.

I've been busy arranging to transfer both our sperm biopsy tissue and 2 frosties from the old clinic as we may need them after all. I don't want to get too exited as it could all go pear-shaped and downhill again but.... I am cautiously optimistic.

I can't help but think that all of the positive thoughts from this group contributed to the upturn in our fortunes!

Thank you all.

With much love from,
 

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Flopsy - couldn't have had better news tonight - excellent!!
We're all 'routing' for you...
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Flopsy,

That is really great news.  I so hope that things continue to improve and that you manage to sort out the tranfer of the biopsy and frosties from your old clinic.  Do you have to physically do it yourself?  With our frozen sperm we have now had to transport it twice - first from the hospital it was stored at before dh had chemo and then from our last clinic to ARGC - in big cryogenic (is that the word?) container - steaming in the back of a black cab!!!  Not sure what the taxi driver thought!!!!

Anyway - best of luck and as Angie says, we are all routing for you.

xVictoria
 

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Flopsy - that is really good news. I hope things continue in the right direction and you can salvage this cycle.
Sending you all my Best Wishes.

Love Carmela x
 

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Flopsy so glad to hear your levels went up nicely,as Victoria has said here's hoping things improve and it's good news all the way

Love always
Georgia
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Dear Flopsy

That's just wonderful news, I'm so pleased for you and your DH :).

Wishing you lots of luck for the rest of your cycle

Love
Kim
 

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Flopsy

I left you a post on the goldies board enquirying how you got on and then see this....

I am so pleased that things have turned a corner I really do have positive feelings about this cycle

Good luck

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Hiya

Good to see your post Flopsy and to see that there is some good news. Really pleased for you.

I know this has been covered many times but I'll ask anyway!

I bought two Buserelin sprays from ARGC this week and start sniffing on day 21 of next cycle (approx Feb 21st). Should I have got them from elsewhere? Where do I get the stimming drugs from as I know there are cheaper places than ARGC but is it really workable buying elsewhere if the dose/drug etc may change according to response?

Also, are the blood tests/scans during stimms not included in the main tx cost but charged as extras?

Just a few questions on this Friday morning!

Hope you're all looking forward to a good weekend.

It's Day 16 of WeightWatchers and despite a few lapses I'm still doing okay! But it is Friday and there is a nice chilled bottle of white wine in the fridge...

Ruth.  :)
 

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Hi Ruth,
I think all the scans during stimms are included in the IVF/ICSI fee, but not blood tests (and I think they're £40 a go). Extras we paid for were blood tests, ICSI, IVIG, blastocyst transfer and freezing. We got all of our drugs from ARGC as it was easier, especially with the changing doses, but I wish I hadn't bought the merional, as it's still in my fridge unopened! I am now buying my drugs from Alis Chemist in Shadwell (E1) - Clexane is £35 per box, vs £54 elsewhere. His phone no. is 020 7790 9150 and he's really helpful and cheap! Might be worth getting a few bits from there, such as Gonal-F and trigger drugs?
Good Luck!
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Thanks Jane. I know the drug issue crops up all the time but until it is actually time to start tx a lot of the info just doesn't get absorbed!
Also, on what basis do they do a blastocyst transfer rather than 2 or 3 day?
 

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Hi Everyone

Flopsy ~ so chuffed that your hormone levels are rising now.  Stay  ^reiki^ & we'll stay  ^reiki^ for you too as I think it's working  :-*

Ruth ~ I'm not sure about where to buy your drugs from.  I think the buserelin is fairly cheap (well it was from my last hospital anyway).  In terms of the stimms, I'm not sure as I'd be worried in case I got one of those 'inject now' or 'change drugs' phone calls.  Jane is spot on about the scans/bloods, I think the bloods are £30 or £40 a go.  I think they always try to get to blastocyst with the embies, but will generally leave until 3 days minimum.  I was told by Tarek that they would do a 2 day transfer if they felt the embies would do better once implanted.  On the weightwatchers front, my old WW leader said she used to have one day off from WW a week, she'd have a take-away and a bottle of wine (normally after weigh-in or close after it) - it was the only way she could keep at it for so long & it worked for her.  Well done on keeping to it hun  ;)

Emmalou ~ hope the stimms are going well hun.

Carmela ~ have you had the call to trigger yet?

Hi to everyone else - hope you're OK.

Well it seems everyone at work is dropping like flies.  We've now got tonsilitis, flu and chest infections going round in the office.  Will I need to stop the Humira if I'm unlucky to catch anything?  I hope not - it'll be such a waste of money!

Talking of money - my private insurance company sent me a cheque today for £170!  They made a mistake though and sent the one for £1,000 to ARGC  ::)  Typical - it had to be the larger cheque didn't it!  I've got to wait another week while they re-issue!  At least they've agreed the claims.  

I've pencilled in my hysteroscopy for 12th Feb - not sure if I'll be ready, but I'm pencilling myself in every 2 weeks until I get the go-ahead.

Catch up soon.
Take Care
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Nikki
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Wis, if you have lots of little embryo's motoring along after your icsi then the clinic will let them go to blast stage so they can hand pick the best ones.  However, if after 3 days (like me) you have only 2 good looking embryos and it is obvious they are the best ones (day 3 i had 4 embryo's, two were looking perfect, and the other 2 were sluggish and had been since they were fertilised) then the best place for them is to be inside you, and they wont wait till blast stage.  M

PS, special hi to Flopsy. thinking of you.  M
 

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Hi

I want to change clinic for my next IVF attempt and have just got the forms for the ARGC as I feel they may give me the best chance of success (most of your posts seem to agree, its really good to see that you feel so supported by them!).

What I was wondering is if anyone can tell me if they managed to juggle going to work with all the blood tests and scans that the ARGC do and/or how long they take off work each cycle. 

I work in central London and I have quite a sympathetic boss/flexible work hours.  Obviously I can also use annual leave, but previously I have only taken time off in the 2ww and I dont get very much.  I dont think I could afford to take much unpaid leave.  What does everyone else do?

Thanks for your help.

Em

 

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Hi everyone, just got my call to trigger tonight  :) , will have EC Sunday morning  ^eyes^
I am feeling very excited and nervous, they also have put me on Viagra so don't know how i will react to that.
Mr T seems to be training someone new, no sign of Mr G for a while now.

Wis - i bought all my meds from ARGC because it was easier. I had so many inject now calls and days when i had to wait around to see what meds i needed. It was less stressfull for me to just get the meds from them.
If you get organized before hand find out which chemist you are going to use, their opening hours and if they have all the meds in stock, i am sure it will be just as easy.
Enjoy your wine!!

Nikki - I think you need to wear a mask at work with all those lergies every where, i would be paranoid just to breath in!!
Hope you wouldn't have to stop the Humira if you did catch something.

Em - sorry can't help you but sure someone soon will

Hello to everyone

Love Carmela x  :)
 

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Hi Girls,

I hope everyone is well  ^reiki^ thought to you all.

Flopsy i am so pleased things seem to be turning around for you, i will keep thinking  ^reiki^ things and i really hope it continues.

Nicki how are things honey? The DR is going ok i have been feeling a bit tired and a bit snappy. I am just waiting for AF to arrive it is due on Tuesday, then i can book a scan to see if i can start stimming. So i may see you at the clinic in Feb.

Carmela good luck with your trigger tonight.

Em i travel from cornwall and i plan to take holiday while i am stimming but i will work during 2ww unless told otherwise.

Warm Wishes to you all
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Hi me again

Just wanted to say good luck to camela for Sunday, I really appreciated your kind words yesterday and will be routing for you I really hope you have tons of healthy eggs.

And to Emma, thanks for your support also. Regarding work, I have only done one tx at our local clinic but work in London, (next one should be easier at ARGC)  Anyway I went and disucssed it with my HR dept and some of the time was given as paid hospital appointments and some I had as unpaid, however when it came to the 2ww I got a certificate from my doctor (which they were quite happy to do) which meant it was paid sick leave.  Hope that helps and good luck

Croc

Treacle I really hope you avoid all the bugs, don't know if you can take any vits or things with what you are taking but echincea (I swear by it) and vitamin C boosters can keep these things away, but as I said you may not be able to take them, best check with the clinic.  If not plenty of green veg and lots of orange juice
 

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Hi Girls-

Carmela, that's excellent news, hun!  I'll be thinking eggie thoughts for you Sunday.  Try not to worry, I'm sure it'll be just fine.

Em- the blood clinic opens early and you can usually get a scan early too (sorry, can't remember the exact hours).  Many women go before work and manage quite well especially if you work in central London.  You should be able to manage this especially if you warn work you may be a bit late coming in.

Is Mr.G really gone?????

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Hello to everyone,

Sorry not to have posted for such a long time - juggling stims, IVIG and work has been a bit hectic to say the least. Still all in a good cause and after a very slow start (I've a history of poor response to stims) we seem to be getting there!

Flopsy - so sorry to hear that you've had such a difficult cycle - I know how stressful it is (I have thought I was going to be cancelled again a couple of times in the past few weeks and much as I know stressing won't help I've found inner calm somewhat elusive at times!) . So pleased that you seem to have turned a corner now and I sincerely hope that things are on the up.

Carmela - good luck for ec on Sunday!!

I hope all the humira ladies are well - I had my 6th (and hopefully last) jab last night. Nikki - I had a bit of a cold a while back and just carried on regardless - not sure that I should have though so probably best to check with the clinic.

Ruth - I've been paying £30 each for the daily (Oestradial?sp) blood tests during stimming.

Em - I've worked during stimming - it's been a bit harsh as I live in Hants and work in Bucks so I've been driving to work each morning via London (just a 50 mile detour)  but that's meant I've had bloods at 8am and then gone straight round to argc when I needed a scan. Generally I've managed to get to work by about 9 or 10 at the latest (and luckily I have a very understanding boss). I've had a couple of inject now calls so I've brought all my drugs to work each day and commandeered the disabled loo as necessary (felt a bit like a scene from train spotting sitting in loo surrounded by needles and syringes but what can you do!!). I took one day off for IVIG (sick leave) and I'm going to take the next two weeks (covering EC/ transfer and then the first week of the 2ww - touch wood that I get that far!!). I was going to take the lot as holiday but having chatted to my boss and HR I may take some as sick leave (I need to chat to argc to see if they'll sign me off).  I have to say it has been pretty tiring at times  but it's not too bad and if it works it will so be worth it!

Soph- no sign of Mr. G recently - I think he's on extended leave

Good luck, best wishes and happy Friday to all!
Kindest regards
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Wis - they do a blastocyst transfer if you have quite a few embies to choose from. However, taking this route means you could lose some that may otherwise have survived (on our last tx, we had 12 embies, ended up with 2 blastos and none frozen, but this time had 2 blastos (still with me!) and 9 frozen). But I did hear that that during the summer, they were getting a 70% success rate with Blastocysts. As the girls have said, they sometimes do a day 2/3 transfer if they feel that is best. The embryologists usually advise the best course of action, and keep you updated daily with progress (another nerve-racking time!) I know what you mean about the drugs etc., you kind of get caught up in a whirlwind/hurricane!  ^spin^
Em - I juggled work OK with the tx and the 2WW. Usually got to the clinic at 8am for bloods, then back to ARGC for a scan and made it to work by 9.30 (which is usual for me!!). I told my boss, so got a day off for EC and 2 days after ET without any worries and he was also aware of my reasons for being late, and disappearing from the office at the end of stimms so I could go back into the clinic. Because I told him, it completely removed guilt and stress (he was lovely about it, his best friends have been through it 3 times (successfully) so was really supportive). I also took days off 'sick' for IVIG where necessary. I think I was really lucky.
Carmela - OMG - HOW EXCITING  ^clapping^ ^goodluck^ ^dancing spot^ ^fairydust^ !!! I am sending you every positive vibe I can  ^reiki^- Good Luck for Sunday ^reiki^. I've got a very good feeling about this, especially as you know you can get pg.
Flopsy - Hope you are doing OK  ^Cuddle^
DaisyJ - Good Luck stimming!  ^reiki^
Love to everyone
Jane
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