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Hello all,

Have looked at this site a few times and found it very positive and appealing. Took plunge and registered today!

We had our first ivf + icsi in April 2004 and unfortunately weren't successful. As I have high FSH levels we can't do another cycle. I am now 41 (arghh) so we don't want to wait on a list for 3 or 4 years, so, we are interested in going abroad for treatment having heard about clinics(s?) in Spain.

Does anyone know about clinics in other european countries? or is it only Spain?

Feel quite stuck in knowing where to start with egg donation generally. Only know how difficult it all is and see a huge mountain ahead of us!

Lu & JL
 

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Hi Lu and JL - Welcome

Like you I have turned to egg donation.  I am 42 and my last IVF was cancelled due to a poor response and my consultant really gently pushed us to consider egg donation and mentioned Spain to us due to the waiting lists in the UK. 

I cannot help you with other clinics in Europe as I only looked at Spain.  After a lot of research they all seem very good but I chose one in Barcelona simply because its stats were the highest (70%) and Barcelona is easy to get to as I live close to Heathrow.  Its also the most expensive (9000 euros) but has no waiting list and matches you with a donor first before you start medication which is sniffing and not injections.  It also has good stats for frosties which some of the other clinics do not.  Also another lady on this site went there and is now pregnant.

Have you looked at the ivfconnections.com website as this is excellent for ladies going to spain and I think other european countries?

Would be happy to help with any other queries.  Another lady on this board Susie is just off to Madrid for her transfer so I am sure when she returns she can also give you more info.  She is at one of the IVI clinics which also has a very good reputation.

Mandy
 

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Dear Mandy,

Thanks for the advice. It sounds like a good decision to try Barcelona with such a high success rate and no waiting.  I'll certainly consider that (no injections sounds good too.) It is tricky waying up the pros and cons of each option. I'll check out the ivfconnections website now which sounds interesting.

All the very best for your appointment in Spain in September.

& thanks again

Lu
 

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Hi Lu

I am another one going to IVI Madrid.  Our appointment is 14th October.  Will update when I know more.

Love Indianna XX
 

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Hi Lu, am not having treatment but setting up an egg donation programme in Marbella specifically for english couples with a centre already doing it there. I have run an egg donation programme here in the UK for the last 8 years but am moving to Spain due to my husband's job. I know there are lots of options to look at, just bear me in mind too!!

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Hi Lu,
I know about a clinic in Olomouc, The Czech Republic...just posted a note to Ceci about it...
I think I really found a gem...great service for a very decent price...
Check them out.
Good Luck
 

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Hello Hana. I'm really interested in your clinic in olomuec, Czech republic. Were probably going to have to have DE and although I've got Spain in mind, 'we are both pale pale and I think that there might be more chance  of a match in a non  mediterranenan  place. I've been told that its not a problem in Spain, but  wanted to explore other options. Can you post more details.kind regards
 

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Hi Albali,

I'm also really interested in Fertimed Clinic in Czech Republic.  Has anybody been there?  I have read their website and although the place looked nice there was not an awful lot of information.  I am also fair and think that an eastern European for DE would be a better match.  Also it sounds such a reasonable price.  It would be great if you could let me know your progress.

Kind regards
 

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Hello there.'Fraid I dont have much to report, just wanted to reply.  I'm in  a peculiar position in that I keep changing sites for posting. First I was on the IVF website, then I was told no chance with ivf go straight for  donor eggs, so I went on teh waiting list and on the donor egg site here, then I fell pg naturally, so delayed my 1st ivf treatment, then just had m/c, so still want to try ivf for ist time, but meanwhile still believe the first diagnosis and so want to explore tx abroad. But as I said I think eastern europe may be better for a match as dp and I are both very pale and although I'm told its not a prob in spain (my first fall back position) I wantto be prepared. Have you any nore news? reagrds albali. ps just want to say this site great.
 

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Thought we'd give some support to Ruth & CERAM in Marbella. We went over last week and everything is as we would want. All the procedures are fully explained and being able to talk an English nurse in Ruth is a real bonus. They appear to have very good results (50-60%) but of course we will have to see our final outcome. Currently going through the donor matching part, but hopefully should have an egg tx by the end of Jan 05. Costs are just under 5000euros for straight forward IVF using donor eggs. It is very easy to get there, Malaga is the nearest airport which is served by BA, easyJet, thomsonfly, ryanair and probably a few others. We also booked a hotel through Thomas Cook, but it could be possible to go for the day if you pick the right flights.
Fingers crossed that our problems maybe solved.
 

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Danielle

Just wanted to wish you good luck with your treatment at Ruth's clinic.  Do update us with how things are going.  I am presently in the 2ww after ET last week at a clinic in Barcelona.

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Hi all

Danielle - I am hoping to have treatment at Ceram in the new year once we have saved some money and got a few things sorted - It would be great to hear how you are getting on.  I hope they find you a donor soon.

I am sending lots of positive thoughts to all of you girls having or waiting to have treatment - we all deserve to have our dreams come true soon  :-*

Lots of Love
Jennifer xx xx xx
 

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Hi Danielle

Good luck with your treatment

Mandy

I didn't realise you were in your 2ww already  Good luck hun.  When do you test?

Me - I'm just waiting and waiting ...... couldn't decap this month as no donors at the mo so got to ring them when get next af.

Love Indianna xx
 

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Hi Indianna

Yes I am in the dreaded 2ww along with Natalie and Tracey.  Me and Natalie test on the 30th. I am having a Beta done on that day and will resist hpting as I dont trust them.  I'm still quite positve at the moment and it helps also having 2 frosties to fall back on if the worst happens.


Sorry you couldent decap this month but I guess its a bit close to Christmas for available donors.  I am sure you will get the go ahead in the New Year.

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After unsuccessful IVF and a raised FSH we would now like to try with donor eggs. I have read some really interesting posts on here re: treatment in Spain and the lack of long waiting lists for egg donors.

I would be really grateful if anyone has any information about egg donation  abroad, or advice they could pass on.

I have just started to go through the anger phase of how I feel and the unfairness of everything, but it makes me feel even worse feeling that. That probably made no sense whatsoever!!

If anyone has any coping strategies as well that would be much appreciated! Don't ask for much do I?

Thank you for listening and good luck to everyone.
Love,
Jenwana x
 

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I am sure the girls will help regarding coping mechanisms, but I can at least give you some help with the info bit. I have set up an egg donation programme for couples in the UK, based in Marbella, Spain, (the sunny bit!!) Do have a look at our website at www.ceram.es and if you have any queries e-mail me at [email protected] We have no waiting list as yet and ballpark figure for IVF egg donation is 5000€. Clinical pregnancy rate/take home baby rate of 53.2% or was it 52.3%, I always get them mixed up but it gives you an idea.
I know it is a difficult journey when using donor eggs but at least there are ways of making the journey shorter than it would be in the UK.
Good luck in our future treatment options.

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Hi Jenwana
I have had treatment with donoreggs in Madrid, Spain. My daughter is now 2months after successful treatment, 1st one ended in a miscarriage. I was then treated for immune issues and is now a mum to a lovely 2month old girl. The clinics in spain are now getting busier and busier and sometimes you have to wait a few weeks(up to 6weeks) before the transfer. I only was on estrogen for 28days(not too long for them) before transfer. They are very good and you dont pay if the donor do not produce eggs of sufficient quality. Check out www.ivfconnections.com and go to "ivf in Spain" section. Check out "Wonderful Women" thread. I used to post there under a different username. I could not have gone through my cycles without the support of these women. the successrate is 65% birthrate after 3 cycles, so that speaks volumes.
Wish you well
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ERROR- the successrate is 65% after 1 attempt but 94% after 3 attempts, my apologies. They are not very expensive, I paid at the time 6000euros all inclusive(icsi, blastocysttransfer, transfer) There are frequent flights to Madrid all year round.
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Hi Danni

I'm interested to know more about your treatment for immune issues...  I also had an mc (at 8 weeks) after DE in Madrid & I'm just going through the Chicago tests with George at CARE.  Who did you see?  What was the diagnosis & treatment?

So glad to 'meet' someone who's been through this & come out with that precious baby at the end....

Susie
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Hi Susie,

Glad to see you 'posting'.  I am finding it very difficult waiting to have a consultation with Dr. Beer because I just want to start a cycle NOW!  However, after 3 miscarriages with my own eggs I want to make sure I have done all I can to succeed on a DE cycle.  I am so wishing for the same thing for you too after all you and your DH have been through.

I am with Dr. Beer because I was told I was too old to see Mr. George!.  Anyway, I'm tempted to start with IVI Valenciathis cycle, but feel I really should wait for the Dr. Beer consultation (March 15) to see what he says.  I know I will have Clexane and steroids, but not sure whether anything else and don't know when in my DE cycle to start them. 

Wishing you the best Susie.
Daisy
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