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Hi Peter
I know you are away at the moment and Im not sure when you are back.
We had our first IVF 2 months ago, 19 eggs collected, 15 embies. 2 put back and 10 frozen on day 2 mainly at 4 cell. Out come was negative.
This week we have had our first FET. I was totally unprepared for what has happened this week........ They defrosted 5 initially the day before transfer to see what they did overnight. Initially we had 100% thaw, they all lost at least one cell but we were under the impression this was normal. The next morning as we were about to leave we had a phone call from our embryologist to say that all 5 embies had stopped dividing and all appeared to be degenerating. I was devastated to say the least, we then asked for the remaining 5 to be thawed. The embryologist phoned me back 5 minutes later to say 4 had suvived 1 had stayed 4 cell and the rest had lost at least one cell, one had even gone down to just one cell. We decided to go ahead with the transfer and take pot luck with which ones they have put back (maybe this was a mistake)
I had the best 3 cell put back and the 4 cell. We asked for the remaining 2 to be kept in the lab until today to see what they did. Having just spoken with them now I have been told that the 1 cell had dividided into a 3 cell and the 3 cell into a 6 cell. Obviously this is very slow and they will be destroyed tomorrow after there final check. I have been told this is to do with the culture they are in and not because they are poor quality.
I am just devastated this has happened. I was totally unprepared for this to happen and new maybe 3 or 4 could perish but not nearly the whole lot. Obviously I am convinced the same is happening to the 2 inside me, lets face it it would be a miracle if they were different.
I have been assured by my hospital that this is simply the freezing/defrosing process and nothing to do with the quality of my embryos. Would you agree wiht this? I keep reading in places that ones that die means that they wouldnt have made it anyway which keeps worrying me. I also keep reading about girls who have one or two defrosted and they both suvive, I thought I was being generous asking for 5 to be thawed.
I jsut feel so guilty in freezing them in the first place and wish we hadnt ever done this.
Do you think in future we should only freeze any embryos making it to blast stage?
Please can you give me your honest opinion of this situation and what you think our next move should be.
Thanks so much Peter
Lou
I know you are away at the moment and Im not sure when you are back.
We had our first IVF 2 months ago, 19 eggs collected, 15 embies. 2 put back and 10 frozen on day 2 mainly at 4 cell. Out come was negative.
This week we have had our first FET. I was totally unprepared for what has happened this week........ They defrosted 5 initially the day before transfer to see what they did overnight. Initially we had 100% thaw, they all lost at least one cell but we were under the impression this was normal. The next morning as we were about to leave we had a phone call from our embryologist to say that all 5 embies had stopped dividing and all appeared to be degenerating. I was devastated to say the least, we then asked for the remaining 5 to be thawed. The embryologist phoned me back 5 minutes later to say 4 had suvived 1 had stayed 4 cell and the rest had lost at least one cell, one had even gone down to just one cell. We decided to go ahead with the transfer and take pot luck with which ones they have put back (maybe this was a mistake)
I had the best 3 cell put back and the 4 cell. We asked for the remaining 2 to be kept in the lab until today to see what they did. Having just spoken with them now I have been told that the 1 cell had dividided into a 3 cell and the 3 cell into a 6 cell. Obviously this is very slow and they will be destroyed tomorrow after there final check. I have been told this is to do with the culture they are in and not because they are poor quality.
I am just devastated this has happened. I was totally unprepared for this to happen and new maybe 3 or 4 could perish but not nearly the whole lot. Obviously I am convinced the same is happening to the 2 inside me, lets face it it would be a miracle if they were different.
I have been assured by my hospital that this is simply the freezing/defrosing process and nothing to do with the quality of my embryos. Would you agree wiht this? I keep reading in places that ones that die means that they wouldnt have made it anyway which keeps worrying me. I also keep reading about girls who have one or two defrosted and they both suvive, I thought I was being generous asking for 5 to be thawed.
I jsut feel so guilty in freezing them in the first place and wish we hadnt ever done this.
Do you think in future we should only freeze any embryos making it to blast stage?
Please can you give me your honest opinion of this situation and what you think our next move should be.
Thanks so much Peter
Lou