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Am I alone in my thoughts about cycling in the New Year?!

Not able to start your cycle until the New Year, it’s your first FET and you are so very excited!

Maybe you are contemplating the next cycle after your last BFN and all you can think about is the next try but you can’t actually do anything about it and you are going excited but then scared and then scared but excited and it’s constantly in your thoughts?!?

It could be you are thinking fu*k IVF, I am going to do what I want, eat, drink and be merry for the Christmas season....fertility treatment is next years problem....

Let’s chat..... before, during and after our cycles  :)





 

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Hi Jupiter 96,
It’s lovely to hear from you! I’ve been waiting for a Jan/Feb board to open and thought it may still be a little way off yet. It’s hard to estimate but I think we’ll be transferring late in January and not testing until early February. We’ll be doing our second FET of our one remaining frozen embryo. We had egg collection and PGD last summer. Then had difficulties with lining. Had a transfer this summer and couldn’t believe we got a BFP first time. Unfortunately we found out we had had a missed miscarriage at the end of August at 12 weeks (embryo had grown to 10 weeks) which I have found really hard. We want to try again as it’s our only way of having a healthy baby. However, I’ve got really mixed feelings about the whole thing and what will happen and how I’ll cope. I’m trying to keep busy and focus on other things. I completely get your frustration about starting and thinking about it all the time but I’m trying not to stress and think about it all the time like last time. I need to find a way of coping with this as well as living life, especially if we have to go through all this multiple times. I’m doing pretty well with managing 5 fruit/veg a day but not doing as much exercise as I should. I have a healthy BMI but have put on some pounds which I had intended to loose. Our clinic wanted me to have extra estrogen before down-regging so I started progynova on 3/12. I’ll add in Provera on 17/12 and Buserelin on 19/12.
What protocol are you on? When are you likely to start? Is it your first FET? Have you had a transfer before? I’d be happy to chat before, during and after x


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The latter one!

Ive done all the healthy eating, no drinking etc and it made no difference.
In fact my recent cycle of IVF, i didnt diet and drank up until stims and had my best cycle yet. 1 top quality transferred and 3 top quality frozen (my best quality embryo prior to this cycle was a 3BB)

Unfortunately, ended in CP so now entering the unknown called FET! I know lots about IVF, zilch about FET!

I have a follow up on tuesday and im guessing i will know when i will be able to start FET and what protocol il be on. I imagine it will be Feb when i transfer.

Currently on route for my initial app for recurrent miscarriage.

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Hi ladies

Nice to be able to join another cycle forum  ^idiot^
We had a fresh cycle in October which resulted in a positive but then miscarriage we had transferred a top quality embryo and put 2 on ice. We had our review appointment which was really positive and going ahead with a FET January unsure of dates yet as have to ring them with first day of my next AF so prob cycle January and transfer February
Baby dust to u all let’s get sum lovely BFP’s in this forum after the New Year  :)
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Hoping

In your review meeting, i presume it was discussed what protocol of FET you were having, ie: Natural or medicated?

What protocol will you be on? Did he say why he chose it?

I have my review on Tuesday.
 

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I'd love to join the chat.
First FET after 4 fresh rounds (banking a few embryos as I went along to make the most of own egg chances due to age). 1 ectopic and 3 BFN, I'm hoping that FETs bring a change in luck.
In my review consultation they suggested natural for me being that I ovulate regularly and would be less drugs, which in turn means less money! They said stats were similar for medicated vs natural but that natural was less predictable for timings and might involve more scans to determine when ovulation takes place.
As a result of the unknown that lies ahead, I'm making the most of the festive season and putting IVF in the background before getting back to healthy living in a few weeks.
Obviously, when I say I'm putting IVF on the background, I'm on an IVF forum on a Saturday night during Xmas party sesson, so it's probably still pretty much in the forefront!
 

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Good Morning Ladies!

It’s so lovely to know that I am not alone or crazy for thinking about the impending 2020 FET cycles!
We can help each other through this fertility rollercoaster hopefully, although in some ways it could be the blind leading the blind! This will only  be FET cycle two for me.

@ Hopeful
Welcome!
I am so sorry for your loss, that must have been a heartbreaking experience. I have only the one FET cycle and that BFN devastated so I can only try to imagine what you have been through. I respect your bravery and determination to keep only going with such balance yet positivity.

In answer to your questions, this is will be my second transfer following a quick medicated cycle in 2016 so it’s already been a long journey so far.  Unfortunately it was a BFN, it just felt instinctively like it “wasn’t the right time”. Little things kept going wrong but I still kept the hope so it was a bit of a shock to the system getting that BFN.  It has taken me a little while to dust myself down.  Timing wise if AF plays ball and arrives end of Dec/early Jan we plan for transfer around 17th or week after that.  If AF comes too early in Dec then it’s a conversation with the consultant as we are trying to avoid the busiest and most fatiguing point of my monthly work Schedule.  It will be another medicated cycle, the doctor didn’t feel changes were necessary and that I was just unlucky.  However, I asked to have progesterone tested on transfer day in case levels need to be upped ASAP and I will have a mixture of injections and pessaries because I didn’t feel confident enough was being absorbed last time.

Like you I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I am getting my head into the game but not quite there yet.  I hope I can manage the emotional side of it all, the medication really does make you feel pregnant.

How are you feeling on the down try? Fingers crossed it sounds like we are aiming to transfer around similar times.

How will you be spending Christmas, do your family know that you are having treatment?

@ Bubbles
Welcome!
When did you have your last transfer? What was your experience? Did you have a gut feeling about it all? I am sorry to hear that it was a CP.

How did the recurrent miscarriage appointment go?

@ Kelly
That’s great that you had a positive follow up.  Sorry to hear that it was a miscarriage.
Have you been advised to do anything differently this cycle?
I shall definitely raise a cup of tea toast to some lovely BFPs for us all!

@ Olddognewtricks
Welcome to the chat!  I am hoping for a change of luck for you too.  Sounds like it has been a long journey for you. Do you have any tips re managing your emotions through it all? This is my main concern. 
We’ll try to get you through the unknown but it’s great that you have non medicated as an option. Less medication sounds wonderful!  When and how do you kick off your FET cycle?

AFM - Praying AF behaves and arrives end of Dec but already feeling pre menstrual so it may very end up being a Feb transfer.

Happy Sunday!

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Bubbles: Yea they told me about medicated and non medicated FET I have went with medicated as it can all be timed and controlled rather then a natural, I am gonna be on buserlin injections and estrogen tablets and cyclogest presseries, told me to call on my first day of AF which shud be 20th this month but warned me I may have to wait til my January AF as there dairy is fully booked so I may have to go with a late jan early feb transfer which I don’t mind either way as can get myself prepared, Wishing u Goodluck ur in review apptment I left feeling very positive so I hope u do too.

Jupiter: No they have just added in the estrogen tablets 2mg this time which I didn’t have in my fresh cycle not sure if this is needed in a FET or if it’s just summit they are trying, iam also looking at a late Jan early Feb transfer due to dates as my AF due around 20th but doesn’t often play ball but am quite happy to hold out a bit and get Christmas and new year out the way and will keep me occupied look forward to cycling with u

Olddog: sorry to hear about ur previous cycles but let’s all get our positive heads on that FET is the one for us all!!!! I no what u mean about putting it at the back of mind I think we have all timed it nicely as the wait is the worst part but lucky only we have 1 of the most occupying times of the year to help pass the time for us Christmas first then new year week later shid fly by for us all :)

Hopeful: Sorry to hear about ur last cycle, similar thing happened to me but mine was bit earlier on awful awful time but here we are chin up chest out and going again, wishing u all the luck with ur FET just takes that 1 little embryo to do the trick I have read ppl having 1 top grade transferred and a BFN then ppl with a very low grade and not much progress with thawing and went on to have a BFP just shows ivf alone is really like a lotto draw, Goodluck and keep us updated give us a nice little kick start with a nice big BFP

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Jupiter

My last transfer was 6th November. It was a fresh cycle and my worst emotionally. I really didnt handle it well, which you would think that as it was my 6th cycle, id know how to handle it!
I was constantly googling everything. And knew from the moment i had the transfer that ultimately i wasnt going to get a baby from that transfer. I just knew. Weird.

My Recurrent MC app went well. The professor was very optimistic. She said ive got pregnant alot, almost at every opportunity given so she said i was more than likely going to have another baby.
Ive had a load of bloods done, got to wait 4 weeks for the results. If i get pregnant again, im to call them straight away to arrange a 6, 8 and 10 weeks. Its nice to know there is the support there.

Hoping - its good that you were given the choice and that it doesnt bother you too much when you start. Im horrendously impatient so im itching to get on with it.

With regards to me, and which is better, natural or medicated.. im not sure. I have PCOS and although my cycles are long at 42 days, they are regular.
I lìke the no drug approach if im honest, especially given my miscarriage record, but do worry about the amount of scans and work.

Haha, Olddog, i always 'try' to put IVF on the backburner.... it never happens!
 

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Bubbles12 - I admire you cycling again so soon after your last fresh cycle. I think googling is the enemy during treatment! I hope this cycle is much more positive for you. Glad to hear your appt went well too.

Hopingtobeamammyno2 - Sounds like you're pretty much on the same protocol as me. I'm sorry you also had a miscarriage. It really was such an awful awful time and completely floored me. I was off work for quite a few weeks. That's why I have such mixed feelings about cycling again. I like your advice about chin up and chest out and am glad to have someone around to remind me of this, which I'm sure I'll need from time to time. I hope I can kickstart the thread with a BFP but not sure I'll be first as although I've started drugs, I'll need to down-reg which means everything will take a good while yet!

Jupiter 96 - You are not alone! It's definitely good to hear from others though. Thank you for such kind words. I'm trying to remain balanced but fear positivity may be lacking at times so may need support to keep this up. I'm glad we could be on a similar timescale. Managing treatment alongside work is so difficult. Although our family know about the PGD, like last time I have chosen not to tell them that we are having treatment now and where we are up to so I don't have everyone else's feelings to manage as well as our own. So far I'm feeling ok on the medication but I'm just on progynova at the moment. We add in Provera on Tuesday and then start Buserelin on Thursday so we'll have to see how that goes x

Olddognewtricks - Welcome! Hoping you'll have more luck with a FET. Lower cost with a natural cycle is a big bonus! Make the very most of Christmas while you can x

 

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Hello all. Apologies in advance for lack of personals, I worry that I'll forget someone!
It sounds like you've all had a tough time on this mad quest we find ourselves on and I'm very sorry for each of your losses. I don't think people who haven't had IVF really get how awful it is when that happens. To have got through all of the stages of treatment, with fingers crossed at every stage for the right number of follicles, eggs, fertilisation and surviving embryos - to create a pregnancy is such a miracle, for it not to continue is such a punch in the face.
The emotional/mental side of IVF is definitely the hardest and is so much harder than I anticipated. I saw some statistics somewhere that as many as 1/4 of people who have a failed first cycle give up on IVF, which shows how brutal the process is. I guess like the rest of you I 'cope' with IVF as best as I can, trying to eat well, exercise, see friends, do hobbies - all the things that give you a healthy balance. And I vow not to Google/symptom watch because I know that I will only take note of the things that point to this cycle being the magic one. I fail regularly though, on all fronts but am learning to give myself a break and accept that it's OK to be a mess at times. The fact we're all on an FET journey means we're still trying, so that is about all we can ask of ourselves.
It seems like we have a mix of natural/medicated and tested/untested embryos, from what I have gathered from my experience so far, it's all about luck! 2020 has lucky written all over it I think!
I hope you're all feeling OK
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Hopeful - ha, i admire anyone that wants to have a break! I just dont have it in me, im just to impatient. To be fair, i just want it all over and done with. Im so lucky to have my son but im desperate for him to be a big bro. OH is 55 now so i dont want to be hanging it out any longer than i can. Im hoping by this time next year, we will know our fate, whether we will be a family of 4 or a little cute family of 3. I cant do this for much longer.

Olddog, its true. I actually look forward to the physical side of things (injections, EC, ET) But this time, it was tough before i knew if we would have frosties, i said i couldnt do a fresh cycle again. The constant worrying of follicle sizes, whether id ovulated early, it they would get an eggs... it goes on and on... and that's before the 2ww!

We (i say we, i mean i) have always been open about IVF and work colleagues, friends (close) have known about my treatment but not this time. Im only telling my boss. I cant have everyone knowing this time. I dont want people asking 'whens test day' or 'have you tested yet'
Work colleagues will know the signs im guessing but they wont ask questions.

So, its my follow up app tomorrow. Another example of me being impatient is i have paid for this app privately rather than wait for my free one as the waiting list goes on until the end of Feb! No way am i waiting that long.
So hopefully, i will know what protocol i am on. And when i will he able to start.

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Hi All!

I'm flying out to Cyprus on the 8th Jan for my first FET. I went out in Nov for my first cycle of Icsi, I should have had a fresh transfer then but I had OHSS so the hospital wouldn't allow it. So now we have 5 day 5 blasts in the freezer. I'm feeling pretty positive about the FET but I'm worried that this could make it even harder if it doesn't work.

Other than lots of fruit and veg, no alcohol or caffeine is there anything that you guys are/nt eating and drinking? I feel like I was really careful before going out last time but I'm worrying that I'm not being as strict this time round. It's so hard with it being Christmas!
 

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Thought I’d add on and join
I’m due to have an fet at the end of January, flying over to Greece to have the remaining 2 Frosties implanted.

This is our second cycle, the first resulted in our little girl so desperately hoping that we can get a sibling for her. Just don’t know if we can be so lucky again and have 2 babies from the same set of embryos

I’m trying to eat healthy but finding it so hard atm just want chocolate!! I thought about doing things in moderation until 1 jan then a massive detox! I’m accupuncturing and exercising lots along with raspberry tea and Brazil nuts!!!

Hope everyone is doing well not long for all of us xx
 

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Desperate - Hey, glad your feeling positive. As soon as you get Xmas out the way, you will be in Cyprus! Have you thought about how many to put back?

Micg - i dont bother much with making drastic lifestyle changes to be honest. I will try to lose the christmas weight, but thats about it

So, ive had my follow up. Consultant asked how old i was. I told him 35 and he told me thats my success rate... 35%! Im taking it as a pinch of salt, it seemed massively generalised.

He has given me the choice of medicated or natural. I have a 42 day cycle but i do ovulate. My work are pretty supportive and IVF is covered in my company policy so im thinking of giving natural a go.
I have until 15th to decide.
Its a bit of a bummer because ive calculated my next period is 3rd January. Shame it wasnt 2 weeks late as i would be able to start then, with transfer being in Feb. As it stands, if im on time(may not be if CP messes cycle up) my transfer wont be until March and therefore a fraud being on this thread!
Im having all sorts or twinges and aches so this could be ovulation on its way!
 

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Welcome Desperatelady!

Am loving the positivity!  I must say the prospect of flying somewhere nice for a cycle at this time of year sounds very appealing indeed!  It sounds like you have it all in hand.  What made you decide to go abroad?

Welcome Micg!
I feel your pain, I am in two minds re how much to do or not to.  How do you find acupuncture? My fertility doc was rather dismissive of it but I am still wondering if it is worth a go if I can get a recommendation locally.

@Bubbles
Please don't feel like a fraud.  If you are doing most of the preparation and build up to it you may as well stay.  I am sure there will be other ladies who join in the NY who may also crossover into March as well.
Anywho, see how you feel...

@Olddognewtricks
I totally understand what you mean.  For all the reading and research I don't think any of it really prepared me for the roller coaster that it has been.  Plus it's on your mind a lot and unless you have a network of friends and family that are in the loop it's hard to express thoughts and feelings as they probably will do their best to empathise but in end may not have the experience to fully understand.

I am trying to be relaxed about it all but I am now keen to have another go.  I really don't like the obsessing "in between" stage.  Despite trying not to think too hard about it I have already planned the date, what I will wear, eat and the route for the gentle exercise.  I have also pretty much decided on my testing strategy as I really want to know if I get any sort of implantation between transfer and OTD

@ Hopeful & Kelly
How are you both doing?

AFM I have this feeling that AF will arrive slightly too early.  The backache and feeling slightly nauseous is already here.  I can only pray that the timing whilst not ideal will be doable for an early Jan transfer.
We are signing consents this week so I will check with the nurses then.  The medication was supposed to have been ordered for delivery tomorrow but I have not yet heard a peep so far which makes me a little nervous.

Trying really hard not to get my heart set on a Jan transfer at this stage but will see how we go when CD1 officially arrives

Have a great day everyone!

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Olddognewtricks - Completely agree that the emotional side of IVF is harder than the physical. I'm trying hard to keep some sort of balance alongside treatment too. I hope that 2020 is lucky for you x

Bubbles12 - It sounds more like determination than impatience to me. I hope you are lucky and get your family of four but your cute little family of three sounds lovely. It's interesting that you've been so open about treatment last time but are keeping it to yourselves this time. Sounds like your work colleagues have been supportive. Although we initially told close family that we would be having treatment, we didn't then tell them about where we were up to with things as I didn't want all the questions. It's good to hear your work are supportive and fab that IVF is covered by the company policy. I find it so hard to estimate when your cycle might be.

Desperatelady30 - You've got a good number of blasts. Good to hear you're feeling positive. I feel exactly the same as you like last time I was much more on it than this time. I'm finding it hard, using Christmas as an excuse but really just need to sort myself out and get on it.

Micg15 - Welcome. Love hearing of others having success with IVF. Gives me hope that it does work.

Jupiter 96 - Thanks for asking after me. Hope you got your consents signed and that dates will work out for you. The waiting is so difficult but I'm trying to go with the flow more this cycle but it's much easier said than done.

AFM - I added in Provera on 17/12 and Buserelin on 19/12. Stop the estrogen and provera on 24/1. Need to stay on Buserelin and wait for a bleed then arrange a down-reg scan for a week later. Not really sure when the bleed will start but that will then give me a better idea of timing for the rest of the cycle. Tried to book in some leave for around transfer and test time but very hard to estimate this. Hope you're all doing ok.
 

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Bubbles - Unfortunately we didn't get a choice in how they were frozen so we will be transferring 2 this time and 3 next time.

Jupiter - North Cyprus was the only place that would take me! I have a really high bmi and DH is much older so we haven't got time for me to lose it all.  I've obviously been trying to lose weight throughout this process, I've lost 3 stone since the summer. Although some has been creeping back on this week!

Hope - I feel like I was really good last time when I went out, I did everything I was told. I don't feel like I've done it at all this time, is so hard with Christmas. We are off away for a few days on Xmas eve, so I won't have long to straighten myself out!
Did you feel any different when you started the estrogen?
 

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Little update from me AF arrived on time so called clinic who have dun my prescription and is ready for me to collect and start my downregg injections into the 11th wow all going so quickly considering my appointment was just 12days ago not that am complaining cos iam so impatient so the sooner the better

Hope u are all well
Merry Christmas to u all and let’s hope this time next Christmas we are all sitting with newborn babies
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Oh its been busy prepping for Christmas. Hope you are all now done so you can sit back and enjoy Christmas.

Jupiter - Did AF come early? Hope the signing of consent forms went ok. Did you get your meds delivered?

Hopeful - There may be a hint of determination there, but believe me, im just a horrendously impatient person! 😂
It was so hard this time because everyone knew. Asking when i was testing, for IVF updates when really they didnt understand my responses. More so, when they were trying to comfort me and say i should wait when i knew i was having a CP. It was frustrating. Plus, i knew i did their beads in too, so best this time, i keep it to myself.
Its definitely hard to work it all out but hopefully you can put a semi plan in place. How are you feeling now you have added the extra meds in?

Desperate - Hope you enjoy you few days away over crimbo.

Hoping - All systems go then!

AFM - Im swaying between natural and medicated. Ive read that its not normally the dunn thing to let a PCOS lady who has 42 day cycles do natural. My consultant said that because i regularly ovulate, it should be ok. However, ive worked out i ovulate on day 28 and the clinic scan from day 10-12 (for the average 28 day cycle) i really hope this isnt the case with me.
I also cant be bothered with all the apps this time. I do like the idea that i can pretty much pick what day to transfer. On the flip (me being impatient) it seems a longer process with medicated (havent read too much up on ot yet).
I worked out i should of ovulated on friday but i havent had my ovulation symptoms apart from a few twinges.
Im now hoping that i dont ovulate until a week on friday (2 weeks later than i worked out) then i may be in with a chance of starting on my next period.
My period before when i was due to start injecting with my latest IVF was 2 weeks late but i was under alot of pressure with organising a fundraising event for my best friends terminally ill sister, so i suppose it can happen where im late. Fingers crossed this time!

Anyway, i hope you all have a wonderful Christmas 🎄🎄🎄
 
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