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Hi all, DH has has first test and it said infertile. Now going to have another one but im worried that is it. He doesnt want to have donor and I dont want to adopt. I know this is looking a little too far into it but wondered what we do from here.
Anyone else had a similar exeperience or got good advice?
 

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Hi Sarah, were your husbands results zero sperm? My DH had 2 samples done at the end of last year, both with zero sperm. The results were devastating for both of us and there was a lot of talking and tears.

We're now a few months down the line and my dh has had blood tests done which have come back ok and he's just seen a urologist who is hopeful he can find sperm through an op. We've still got lots of waiting and there's no guarantees at the moment but from the place we were in after the shock of the results it's nice to have hope again.

I don't know if you've seen the non obstructive azoospermia thread bit there are lots of lovely ladies on there with great advice, all at different stages of this journey. There's so many success stories too that it really does give hope.

Try not to worry too much at the moment (easier said than done I know) but the advances in male factors seem so good now that there really is a lot of hope for us all.

Take care x
 

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Hi Doodle,
Thanks for that posittive reply. Yes it was zero sperm. Need to be referred now to a urologist but got to do 2nd sperm test first. So how are you getting on with your treatment? Blimey aug/sept thats a long while. Thats what I hate, teh waiting. It just seems to endless and I am not the most patient of people!!!
 

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Hi Sarah,

We've got an appointment at the fertility clinic in a couple of months to discuss treatment then after my DHs op we should start (fingers crossed). At the moment it looks like we might start about a year after the first zero result.

The waiting is horrible and every time I think we're getting somewhere and get a date in my head, I hear we have to wait for something else :( I think I just need a date in my head to know what we're aiming for. Sept doesn't seem too bad now I've got my head round it as we've booked a holiday before then  and have booked up a lot of weekends with things to look forward to.

We've done 6 months since first zero result and there have been low points with lots of tears but looking back it doesn't seem as long as I thought it would be. I know we're still near the beginning of the journey compared to the wait and ups and downs other people have been through too but for now we just have to be positive that things will work out.

Sorry if this isn't a very positive message but it's probably better to be prepared for a wait. One bit of advice I've read recently which I wish I'd read earlier was to maybe get some blood tests done privately. One of my dhs chromosome/hormone tests took nearly 3 months to come back which was a frustrating wait, not sure how quick private is or what it costs but I would have looked into it had we known.

 

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Thanks Doodle, Yes I think we are going to go for the whole process privately if possible so am hoping that will speed things up. I have had a few operations privately and the care just seems a lot better and process a lot quicker. However NHS in our area give you 3 tries so at mo just weighing the situation up. My Dh is so laid back about things which is lovely and he keeps looking at each stage rather than the whole picture, wish I could be like that! How is your hubby? My dh feels a little guilty that we have to go through this because of him. Was you dh the same when you found out?
 

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Hi Sarah

Waiting is awful. My DH got his first zero sperm count in Dec 2009 via GP and final azoospermic diagnosis in Oct 2010. In the next couple of months we should start DIUI tx. NHS is slow and can drive you mad. If you can wait do try, it will save you money.

I think most men deal with this by looking at the next stage and no further but women look further ahead. This is certainly true for DH and I. Also, DH feels it is all his fault. I have said it is our problem but I understand his point. He has also grieved for the loss of not being able to have his biological child. Me to a lesser extent.

The NOA board had been a real help to me.

Rachins x
 

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Sarah sorry you have found yourself here after a zero sperm result in a SA. My DH was also told 'donor or adopt' after his first zero SA, and since then with the help of the lovely women here we have been on a long journey. Many men may not produce sperm in the ejaculate, but do make them in the testicle, which can be extracted surgically. It also depends on if your DH has obstructive or Non-obstructive azoospermia. If you are going private then the best thing to do is to make an appointment with an andrologist (specialist in male factor infertility) to discuss your case. If you can before you go try to get some blood tests done on DH and an ultrasound to look for blockages. Bloods include FSH, LH, Testosterone, Oestrodial, cystic fibrosis, karyotype and y gene deletion. THe last 3 can usually only be done at a specialist centre rather than at your GP. The andrologist will then organise to do an operation on DH (called a TESE) to see if sperm can be found and frozen for ICSI.

There is hope with azoospermia of having a familiy, and although it is a shock and sad and horrible and takes ages, do not give up hope. Have a read through the NOA thread from the begining or find an old thread to read through, adn you will read lots of stories of women who have had healthy babies when their partner has had NOA/OA. There are also storeis of women like me who have moved onto donor, but have tried to use their partner's sperm.
Good luck on your journey and keep chatting here!
lots of love
C :-*
 

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Hi Sarah, DH has been pretty strong and hasn't said too much but he has said a few things about how he feels and it makes me cry as I hate that he's hurting. He definitely looks one step at a time though and doesn't seem as bothered by the wait and really helps me put things into perspective.

Going private will definitely speed things up and I wonder if we would have considered it at the beginning had we known it would be a year+ wait. Time is passing quite quickly at the moment though so hopefully treatment will be starting before we know it!

Wishing you lots of luck for whichever route you decide to go down.

Hi to Rachfins and Ceci too, I still read the noa thread a bit. Rach
 

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How annoying... trying to type replies on my phone... lost the first one and then posted by accident before I'd finished!! Was just saying, Rach - lots of luck for when your treatment starts and it was good to see that you're moving forward. Ceci, can't be long to go - thinking of you and hoping everything goes smoothly

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Thanks Doodle  :)  sweetie hope you are ok
 

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Hi Sarah, just a little post from me to say hello, because I remember so vividly being where you are now!

As you can see from my signature and diary if you want to have a look, we've had 2 failed NHS cycles and are now due to start (fingers crossed) at ARGC. It feels like we'd wasted 2 years with the NHS, so I'd be inclined to say if you can afford to, do go private. Just my humble opinion and I know it's not right for everyone, but in hindsight (which is very useful of course!) I'd spend every bit of savings we have to have been in the position we're in now 2 years ago. I hope that makes sense!

This website is so helpful, it has saved my sanity! Sending you lots of hugs and good wishes x x x

PS. Hello Ceci x  :-*
 

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I'm doing ok thanks Ceci. You were right, the wait is long and who knows what is still to come! Fingers crossed we'll be starting treatment around September time which we've got our heads around and doesn't seem too far away xx
 

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Hi Sarah, hopefully I can give you a little hope

Winter 2009 OH had a zero count in 2 samples. We where reffered to the uroligist who told us there was no medical reason to why there whas nothing there, all his tests where fine. He reckoned there was a blockage, and that he was producing the swimmers they just wern't coming out.

January 2010 he had a little op where they retrieved lots of swimmers from the epididimys, which confirmed what the doc thpught, there was a blockage!

His swimmers where frozen and used with ICSI April last year and we now have a yummy little boy! :)

Good luck, this by no means the end of your journey! x
 
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