Hello everyone,
I'm afraid I'm one of those who doesn't post too often but I am here far too much trawling through your sad and happy moments looking for inspiration and hope. I don't think anyone likes me much cos I don't get too involved and do personals, anyway......
I just wanted to say that I have just had a natural FET (no drugs whatsoever not even luteal phase support) of one good quality 3 day 8 celled embryo (thawed at 4 cells on day 2) which sadly failed. AF came on a few hours ago - exactly 2 weeks to the hour after I ovulated - at least I'm regular if nothing else! I don't feel too bad (probably in denial and saving it up for when DH gets back from work tomorrow), if anything I am glad the dreaded 2ww is over whatever the outcome. I am currently working my way through a jumbo sized box of liquer chocolates!
The reason I am posting is to say to anyone who has a regular cycle and no hormonal problems I can strongly recommend going for a natural FET. Other than the fact that I had to get up early a few days on the trot to have my bloods done and go for the embryo transfer itself it has been just like a normal cycle and fairly stress free. It is very worrying whether your embryo/s will survive the thaw but luckily we have v good quality ones so were hopeful and positive about that. The other good thing is it is cheaper because you are not using drugs - also you don't feel like crap because of the stuff they give you. Unfortunately the emotional side of the 2ww is almost as bad as a fresh cycle but at least when you are convinced it hasn't worked you can console yourself that it didn't cost as much and hasn't caused your ovaries any more damage. Also it is a shorter thing to endure because you don't have all the downregging etc. I've heard the success rates are similar to medicated but I would be interested to know if anyone has more detail on this because that's just word of mouth.
In a perverse kind of way I expected that this was more likely to work for me than a fresh cycle because my body wasn't under the stress of IVF. In the end though the odds were stacked against us as we have just moved states (in Oz - hence Sueoz..) and we're buying a house. We almost cancelled the cycle as we thought I was under too much stress to conceive but the gov subsidise tx once you have hit a certain level of spending here but it is only per calendar year and we want to have another fresh cycle this year on the cheap and take next year off, so we went ahead. The stress levels went down to an acceptable level in the end so I don't think that's what caused it to fail. However, I did have a very upsetting incident on what would have been implantation day when I was followed by a man when I was walking my (meduim sized) dog and had to run about half a mile back to the car to get away from him. I don't think the running would have done any damage - it's the fright and the adrenaline rush that concerned me. I wish he'd come closer and my dog had bit him - that would have taught him a lesson.
By the way, well done Rainy Day for starting the natural FET thread, what a good idea have been watching with interest, sorry to hear of your sad news recently and the other girl, I think it was Lisa - sorry for you too.
Well sorry to ramble hope this is of some use to someone at some point
Sue
I'm afraid I'm one of those who doesn't post too often but I am here far too much trawling through your sad and happy moments looking for inspiration and hope. I don't think anyone likes me much cos I don't get too involved and do personals, anyway......
I just wanted to say that I have just had a natural FET (no drugs whatsoever not even luteal phase support) of one good quality 3 day 8 celled embryo (thawed at 4 cells on day 2) which sadly failed. AF came on a few hours ago - exactly 2 weeks to the hour after I ovulated - at least I'm regular if nothing else! I don't feel too bad (probably in denial and saving it up for when DH gets back from work tomorrow), if anything I am glad the dreaded 2ww is over whatever the outcome. I am currently working my way through a jumbo sized box of liquer chocolates!
The reason I am posting is to say to anyone who has a regular cycle and no hormonal problems I can strongly recommend going for a natural FET. Other than the fact that I had to get up early a few days on the trot to have my bloods done and go for the embryo transfer itself it has been just like a normal cycle and fairly stress free. It is very worrying whether your embryo/s will survive the thaw but luckily we have v good quality ones so were hopeful and positive about that. The other good thing is it is cheaper because you are not using drugs - also you don't feel like crap because of the stuff they give you. Unfortunately the emotional side of the 2ww is almost as bad as a fresh cycle but at least when you are convinced it hasn't worked you can console yourself that it didn't cost as much and hasn't caused your ovaries any more damage. Also it is a shorter thing to endure because you don't have all the downregging etc. I've heard the success rates are similar to medicated but I would be interested to know if anyone has more detail on this because that's just word of mouth.
In a perverse kind of way I expected that this was more likely to work for me than a fresh cycle because my body wasn't under the stress of IVF. In the end though the odds were stacked against us as we have just moved states (in Oz - hence Sueoz..) and we're buying a house. We almost cancelled the cycle as we thought I was under too much stress to conceive but the gov subsidise tx once you have hit a certain level of spending here but it is only per calendar year and we want to have another fresh cycle this year on the cheap and take next year off, so we went ahead. The stress levels went down to an acceptable level in the end so I don't think that's what caused it to fail. However, I did have a very upsetting incident on what would have been implantation day when I was followed by a man when I was walking my (meduim sized) dog and had to run about half a mile back to the car to get away from him. I don't think the running would have done any damage - it's the fright and the adrenaline rush that concerned me. I wish he'd come closer and my dog had bit him - that would have taught him a lesson.
By the way, well done Rainy Day for starting the natural FET thread, what a good idea have been watching with interest, sorry to hear of your sad news recently and the other girl, I think it was Lisa - sorry for you too.
Well sorry to ramble hope this is of some use to someone at some point
Sue
