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Hi,just wanted to introduce myself to you lovely ladies out there!
Im new at this and i dnt knw if i'm doing this right or not so i'd like to sorry in advance!
Anyway my name is Joe and I'm 30yrs old and have 2 boys 7 and 3.Had normal pregnancy and chilbirt but dh and have been ttc for 2 yrs but no luck.Seen gp who did a few basic tests and said unexplained secondary fertility? Cnt do anything on nhs as i have previouse children sa decided to go private.
Our first appointment with the clinic is on 21st may can any1 plz any1 tell me what to expect at the appointment as i'm very nervouse.Any replys would be much appriciated! ^pray^ ^pray^
 

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Hi Joe  :) welcome to ff

Good luck for your appointment next week and best of luck throughout your tx

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Laura xxx
 

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hi laura, thx for your reply as i was starting to feel lonely :(
just a bit confused as to how to reply! have i done this right?  :-[
 

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Absolutely right don't worry!  ;D its quite daunting making your first post isn't it but it won't take long to get the hang of it!  There will be a mod on here soon to give you a few links to try and to point you in the right direction on the boards. 

Do you know what tx you'll be having?  I'm sorry I can't give you any advice, as you can see in my signature we're not technically ttc yet as we're waiting for dp to have a vas reversal.  Which clinic are you going to?
 

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Hi Joe
You made the biggest decision and that is to seek advice,so well done! Your first appointment they will talk about how long you been trying for, how regular you BD and loads of other personal stuff but it's all important stuff.
At our first one for unexplained sec infertility they took a sperm sample from dH - so might want to warn him in advance! They may book you in for a test that checks that your tubes and uterus are all ok (begins with h but can't remember the name).  Don't be too surprised if they don't put you on a treatment straight away as they need all the tests back, i was dead impateint but it does make sense. 
Good luck and hope all the tests go ok
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hi ruthy, thx for advice thats really helpfull as i thought i would be starting treatment that day ^idiot^
anyway i only had some blood test done at my gp surgery and he said sec inf ??? so dnt knw what other test the clinic will do and how long all that will take and if i actually will have ivf,what if consultant wants to try something else instead?Dh and i only have enough money for 1 cycle of ivf so i cant afford to have other treatment before having ivf.I suppose being the worlds most impatient person doesnt help either! ::) i just want to start the process (dnt what the process is` ^dunce^) so that no matter what happens i can just have it over and done with.Sorry im dead slow to reply its just iv only owned a computer for the first time in my life for 3 weeks, plus im not good with computers at all so please bear with me.xxx :-*
 

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Hi Joe,
Wanted to send you a  ^hugme^ to cheer you up and let you know you're not on your own on how you feel. Infertility is Sooooo hard. I agree with the other girlz on here. Your first appointment is usually to find out what could be wrong. They ask quite personal questions but they are really important and it's nothing that they haven't heard before so just try to be honest with them. If you don't know something then tell them that rather than trying to come up with an answer. The test that checks your tubes is a hysterosalpingogram and it's just a fancy xray that shows if you have any blockages or anything. They also booked my DH in for a sperm sample to see if everything was present and correct with his little fishies. Usually the 1st appointment is just to meet you and sort out a plan of action. If you have any questions (don't worry if they sound silly, we all have them) write them down before you go because when you get there you will forget. Good luck for the 21st and let us know how you get on.  ^reiki^  ^reiki^
I've blown you some bubbles for luck
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Thanx every1 for all your support! :) i use to feel dead alone but you guys have proved otherwise.This is a great site.Anymore info about what happens during and after first consultation and wether i could insist on ivf if all test are o.k would be much appriciated ^pray^ ^pray^ Thanx again all.
 

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Hello joeimpatient, welcome to Fertility Friends. :)

Firstly I think you've had some great advice already from the others. I would say I don't think your GP has really done you justice at all and, certainly I'd want a few more thorough investigations before you leap straight into a potentially invasive and costly procedure like IVF. As a minimum you should have:

*Blood tests on day 21 of your cycle to see if you ovulate (progesterone).

*Blood test on day 1 - 5 of your cycles to gauge your egg reserve / quality (FSH / LH)

*Your DH's sperm analysed.

*your tubes checked for obstructions.

The blood tests can also show if there is any evidence of PCO, and you might also be offered a scan on your ovaries and uterus to see if there is any obvious problems...or even a laparoscopy (lap and dye normally) to have a good look internally. You will need the blood and sperm analyisis for IVF anyway so might as well get them done on the NHS and svae a bit of money.

I really feel like your GP has fobbed you off and I'm quite shocked that he / she is happy to let you go off and do IVF without at least getting to get to the bottom of the problem ^bigbad^ . I would go back and ask for a second opinion, or at least ask for referral to a fertility specialist who will conduct all those tests and do a proper work up on you and don't take no for an answer. Just because you have children already does not mean you are not entitled to have investigations / tests to see what's stopping you this time and, frankly IVF might be completely and utterly unneccesary for you if a course of NHS funded clomid would do the trick! The rules about funding for fertility treatment only count when it gets to the treatment stage and not the investigation part!
You may find you have a little more of a wait ahead as the NHS process takes time (where when private you're paying so get the go ahead straight away) so you could get an NHS referral, see your cons on the NHS and then ask about getting the tests etc. done privately to speed that bit up (some will be happy to take you on as a private patient and use the cross over test results etc. between their NHS and private practices so worth asking. )

If you do find that you need IVF and money is an issue, have you thought about egg sharing? This usually significantly redusced the cost of IVF for you - the pay off being that you donate half your eggs to another couple / lady who cannot use her own and thus you help another couple through infertility too? At your age and proven past fertility I would imagine clinics would bite your your hand off to sign you up for the scheme! Certainly and option worth considering if you want to budget realistically for more than one cycle.

I'm going to leave you a few links that I hope you will find useful:

What Every New Member Needs To Know (includes a list of common abbreviations) ~ CLICK HERE

FERTILITY INFO GUIDES ~ CLICK HERE

Starting out & Diagnosis ~ CLICK HERE

A Rough Guide To IVF ~ CLICK HERE

Secondary Infertility ~ CLICK HERE

Questions for your first cycle consultation ~ (use the ones that apply) CLICK HERE

And don't forget to have a bit of fun while you are on FF and check out the general chit chat / jokes / hobbies area:

Girl & Boy talk - Community & Fun Board ~ CLICK HERE

You can also chat live in our excellent chat room. We have a newbie night in the chat room every week (Wednesday at 8pm), where you can meet other new members and get technical support with navigating the site and using all the functions available here. CLICK HERE FOR INFO ON NEWBIE CHAT

You can also "meet" and chat with people in your local area through the Location boards. This is especially useful to find people who may be using the same clinic and or in the same PCT area.

Wishing you lots of luck. Please do let me know how you get on.

C~x
 

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Hi caz,
thanx for your post hun ^afro^.I can't really blame my gp cos i had all them test done when i was abroad a couple of months ago and all was fine, however  ^furios^ the stupid clinic where i had my test (india) said that i would have to get my results in person and sign for em ^idiot^,but unfortunately my youngest became quite sick so we had to come back quite suddenly and i forgot to pick my result up,I tried getting in touch with the clinic but they refuse to fax them over (clinic policy).So thats why i have to go through all these tests again hun :(.But saying that i'v allready had my day 21 and all the other tests done apart from the scan which they will do at the clinic (as it's included in the first consultation fee anyway).All my test results here and abroad are normal and so is dh  ^HappySperm^.They all keep saying they don't know whats wrong which i find hard in accepting.Thats why i'm opting for ivf hopefully i'll get lucky if not we will have to look at all our options and take it from there.Oh i forgot to mention that when we were abroad we were there for 5 months (visiting family,wouldn't recomend itto any1 else so!).Anyway they gave me clomid to take for 6 months and told us to see a specialist if that didn't work here in the u.k.Unfortunately you probably have guessed that it didn't work and i don't want to try clomid again for 6 months only for it not to work again and it would mean waisting so much more time,and like they say you don't get younger but only get older :(.
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Hi Joe and welcome to the site :)

You have come to a fantastic site full of advice and support and you have been left some great links to try out.

How lovely to read you have 2 sons but sorry to read you are having difficulties trying for another baby. Secondary unexplained infertility must be frustrating especially when you concieved your 2 sons much easier. I wanted to wish you luck with your appointment on the 21st may and hope they can point you in the right direction of concieving another miracle.

Kate xx
 

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hi kate,
          thats so sweet of you hun,thanks :).As my appointments getting nearer i'm feeling more and more nervouse as i'v read in a lot of posts that some ladies had to wait weeks and weeks before going ahead with their tx :(,just hope that doesn't happen to me(that sounds dead selfish i know).I'm at the lwc in darlington and i'v heard they are quite good ;D.anyway dh and i deffo want to go ahead with ivf and i think up untill i'v started tx i won't relax as like my name i really am very impatient :-[. Wonder if lwc do long or short protocal on first ever round of ivf? Sorry hun i'm babbling aren't i? i think i'v finally cracked ^idiot^. I'll let every one know how i get on at my appointment on wednesday. tkc hun.
joe xxx
 
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