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Hiya
I posted this on ask the childrens nurse, but wondered whether anyone had first hand experience instead?

Daisy has a perforated eardum and is on anti biotics to clear up the gunk that coming out. The GP said it shouldnt be an ongoing issue, its not something i was too concerned about.
However when I got home several (old) relatives keep expressing surprise that 'its not a big deal' and telling me about "someone they know" being banned from swimming ever again, going deaf/having hearing problems etc....  Tbh i'm inclined to ignore them and tell them to stuff off    - but I just wanted to know whether there are some ongoing issues or things to look out for? The GP mentioned nothing but I did have a little google (naughty  ) so thought I would ask the question.

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Rach sorry I can't help I just want to send daisy a big hug ^hugme^

I'm sure if it was going too be an isuse long term the gp would have said so at the time

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Thanks Kelli, thats very sweet  ^hugme^ ^hugme^ ^hugme^
- I thought the same about the GP, its just grandparents scaremongering I think!
 

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Hi Staly!
M had a perforated eardrum a couple of months ago. Her paed calls her 'allergic' and she was basically on antihistamines all of last winter and again as soon as the weather got cold this year.
She suffered a perforated eardrum at the beginning of November. Just before it happened I had just told mr biker that maybe we should have her hearing tested. She had gunk and all kinds of stuff coming out of it for about 3 days. She was on antibiotics for 1 week. We had a couple of follow ups with her paed. He said that her hearing could be impaired until the eardrum healed up and to put a plug of cotton wool in her ear whilst showering/washing her hair to keep water from entering the inner ear as that could cause long term problems or aggravate the infection. However, once healed up everything should go back to normal.
We saw the ENT specialist today and he checked everything out. The eardrum response on her right ear is only very very slightly delayed and her hearing according to him should be perfect. It IS worrying when you think that hearing impariment can result in learning difficulties etc but he was very reassuring and said to put it all behind us. As for  swimming, the guy today actually said swimming in the sea is great as it clears out sinuses/blockages etc etc and urged me to take her swimming as much as possible come summer (we are lucky enough to live close to the sea). He wasn't too keen on pool swimming as chlorine tends to make allergies worse, if a child already has them (chlorine irritates the respiratory tract/mucus membranes etc).
Hope that is a little bit reassuring. M is a bad snorer and she spent a year coughing last year. However, the moment her eardrum ruptured the cough disappeared overnight. TOday's guy said that she might have had stuff creeping down the back of her throat from her ear which was causing irritation and now that the blockage is gone it's all cleared up. She is now on new medication which works wonders and her cough hasn't come back at all. She might eventually need her adenoids out but as for long term complications from a single episode of eardrum rupture I've been assured and reassured it is absolutely not the case.
Sending your little one hugs!! If it makes you feel better, the ear is far far more painful before it ruptures apparently as once it pops it's a huge relief.
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Hi Staly

My DS had perforations at least once per month from 6mths old, he had extensive scarring of the ear drums because of this.  He had grommets fitted at 16mths and has been fine ever since.

This is an extreme case, other FF children have it much worse than this even.

If your DD keeps getting them then you may get an ENT referall but at this point its really nothing to worry about.

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You won't necessarily have any long term problems and it could be a one-off, unfortunately only time will tell. However, ds1 had a perforated ear drum when he was 7 months old and had antibiotics for it but it didn't cause him any problems - his hearing is absolutely fine (has been tested in the past due to speech issues), he swims, and has never had it happen again since.

Fingers crossed it's a one off for Daisy too.

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Just to agree with the others in that if it's a one off then highly unlikely to cause any problems and I really wouldn't be concerned  ;)  The GP may have mentioned but if not I'd take her back in a few weeks and they can have a look to see if it's healed back over but even then it may not be much of an issue.

Just be careful not to get water in her ear for the next few weeks whilst it heals over though but I'm sure they told you this.

My DS was like Bev's, recurrent perforations from 7m old and he does have problems due to a damaged ear drum but I've honestly lost count of the number of times his eardrum has perforated  ;)

Fingers crossed it's just the one off  ;)

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Thank you for all your replies ^hugme^ ^hugme^ ^hugme^ ^hugme^

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Just be careful not to get water in her ear for the next few weeks whilst it heals over though but I'm sure they told you this.
He never mentioned anything.... from what I read on the internet I gathered im not to get any water in, but he didnt tell me to :-\ - and im struggling to get Daisy AKA 'the devil' to tolerate cotton wool in there ^bigbad^ , im guessing its pretty important!

Then gunk has pretty much stopped flowing but there is a definate smell from one ear, will def take her back in a couple of weeks to check its healed ok - thanks for the tip S ^hugme^ ^hugme^
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I'm no expert but a smell would generally indicate a bacterial infection so if when you run out of antibiotics and the smell is still persisting I personally would get it checked out again straight away as she might need to be on them for a bit longer?
Hope it all goes well!!!
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Biker I had a think about what you said re the smell, and it was getting worse today so I took her back to the GP. They checked her out & said the perf is no longer visible so healing well, took a swab just in case there is anything lingering but she said it probably just the old nastiness coming out thats causing the smell  :-\


I also checked about the keeping away from water thing and she said you will get lots of opinions on this one, but a quick bath is ok without plugging the ear so I felt a bit more reassured.
Thanks again for all the advice ladies  ^hugme^
 

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Just popping back in case anyone reads & is having the same issue. The GP rang me back on tuesday to say that Daisys ear swab showed infection still present which was obviously not going with just the amoxycillin (sp?) so we are now on a course of different Anti B's to clear it up, and smell finally seems to be going...
 

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Ah that's good to hear (that the smell is now going  ;) ). I was going to mention in my earlier posts that we often found that standard amoxycillin didn't shift DS1's ear infections and more often than not we had to resort to antibiotic ear drops in conjunction with other oral antibiotics, and even steroid drops for the really bad ones. I didn't post it in the end as I didn't want to worry you, but equally wanted to kind of reassure you if it wasn't clearing up on the first course (if you know what I mean  ;D )

Fingers crossed this does the trick  :)

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Glad you followed your gut and took her back in. Ear infections can be quite stubborn to shift. Hope it all clears up for her now. Bad smell and bacterial infection always go hand in hand, wherever or whatever the wound is, so it's always worth checking out.
Sending her lots of get well hugs!!
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Hi there - I just thought I would let you know that I had a perforated ear drum due to an infection as a child (the doctor failed to spot the infection so it perforated). But I have never had any ongoing problems with it - no hearing problems at all and I have always loved water sports. I dived regularly before DD arrived, often to 40 metres and it has never caused me any more problems than anyone else in terms of equalising as I decend. I also used to fly a lot in unpressurised planes and again no probs.

Hope this helps put your mind at rest xxxx
 

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Hi apricot
You sound a bit like a daredevil  ::) ;D  - good to know its not had any lasting affect, thanks for the info  ^hugme^
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We are going through this now, took my boy to A & E about 10 days ago as his ear was seeping blood and puss and we didn't have a clue what it was about. They gave us amoxicillin for 5 days and said go back to the GP so he can check the ear is healing. We did this and the dr said it is too soon and turned us away saying come back in another week. We have been back twice since because his ear is still seeping and the outer bit and lobe is red raw and looks a mess, I can;t believe how much problem it is causing us. We have now been given sofradex drops, which dont seem to be doing anything either! We were told by A&E not to get it wet and no swimming at this if it didn't heal then it would affect his hearing. It isn't healing and it is making him miserable, I have started giving him baby nurofen for the pain now. Poor man has had one thing after another.
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JoJo  ^hugme^

Sorry to hear you little one is suffering, it's so horrid isn't it?  ^hugme^

How long has he had the drops for? Are these the steroid ones or antibiotic ones?

I mentioned on the 1st page that I often found that amoxycillin didn't work very well for my DS when he had an infection with a perforation and often ended up on Co-Amoxiclav after a week of amoxycillin and another which I don't remember the name but think it also began with a C  ::) . To be honest we found drops worked the best and his ENT Cons always recommended Gentimicin to our GP for his ears (apparently they are actually eye drops I think  ^idiot^ )

If it's still oozing after more than a week of drops I'd call back to your GP  ^hugme^

Hope it heals up quickly and he's feeling much better soon  :)

Staly - Is Daisy all better now?  :)

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JoJo  ^hugme^ ^hugme^  - Daisys ear was very crusty & red looking and the smell was quite offputting  :-\


S - yes she is much better thank you  ^hugme^ ^hugme^  the ear looks normal, the smell has gone and she has stopped banging her head, it started just at christmas though so its taken a while.


The 2nd anti biotics we had were Primacine/Erythromycin - apparently the bacteria on the swab they took is much responsive to this than the amoxycillin.
 

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Erythromycin
Ah that was it, E not C ;D

Glad to hear all looking good now and fingers crossed it was just a one off ;) ^hugme^

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Just an update, looks like the drops have worked, they are antibiotic not steriod, about 3 days of use seems to have done so much more than a week of amoxicilin! We're back at GP tomorrow for final check
Praying that's the end
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