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it occurred to me that, rather than compare treatments etc with other non pg ladies, I should ask those who have actually had success!

So, please tell us, what was it that made the difference for you this time?

diet, acup, position  :-[  day of transfer, day of bd, luck, whatever it was, PLEASE TELL US!
 

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I've just had a BFP on my 3rd cycle of IVF/ICSI,

We went away the first week in March which was a month before I started tx to relax and spend some quality time together.

This time I took DHEA and Q10 beforehand along with Pregnacare, Selenium and magnesium.  Had reflexology the week before EC. Partway through I swapped to Zita West Vitafem as had some given.  Drank home made smoothies with pineapple juice and protein powder. Then after ET I had no baths, took a baby aspirin every day, had HCG for progesterone support and have done absolutely very little around the house. 

For me I can't attribute one aspect think it's a mixture of things.  Oh and for the supersticious, I started my tx cycle on the 1st of April (4 month) which was 14 years exactly after our first date on the 1.4.1994 and we live at No14......
 

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Vitamins and cut out/down alcohol were the only differences in my succesful cycle compared to the others. ;)
 

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Whilst on clomid I drank tons of water a day, ate healthily and didn't touch alcohol for months before, during or after.

With my natural miracle, acupuncture.... :)

Bev xx
 

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went on holiday and relaxed.  after a failed ivf got a nat bfp day due to start 2nd ivf.  Also started planning our wedding after 12years of being together as a distraction from the pending ivf.  I only get 2 afs per year always after I return from holiday!

good luck
strawbs xx
 

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Hi,

I used the Zita West vitamins (and DHA) all through my ICSI, but had been using a selection of good vitamins, including fish oil, folic acid, vitamin C & co-enzyme Q10 for many months before (at least 6 months). I did some acupuncture just for my own enjoyment once a week during the ICSI. I had stopped coffee altogether at least 6 months before, and also I had seriously cut down on alcohol. Also, I was eating healthily, again though this was not exactly at that time, but something I built up gradually. However, I can't say I ate little, I often overate & indulged myself, it's just that I tried to include lots of fruits & veg.

All in all, I generally was NOT relaxed during my ICSI, and on the run up to it, it was an extremely stressful time, and personally I think relaxation & stress makes no difference whatsoever in getting pregnant or not. Both my partner & I were very stressed during that time, and I actually think it's completely normal to be stressed, and too much emphasis is given to the illusory idea of being 'relaxed' during treatment. But how can anyone be relaxed (whatever that even means) when it's such a complex & overwhelming process? In my case, I can't say what it was that made the difference, I'm sure it was not one thing, but a combination of factors. I do believe good nutrition & vitamins made a difference, as well as pure luck.

Good luck to you, hope this helps
Cassandra
 

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thank you very much,

it is all so random, one begins to wonder if trying naturally is not just the answer...we are unexplained ie they have no clue but will happily take our money!

any other success stories?
 

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lots of sex, ovulation predictor kit, a high magnesium multi vit, reflexology, legs in the air - not in that order though!
didn't give up alcohol but cut down, ate more healthly too, generally stopped worrying about things and tried to relax.
Good luck
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We got our BFP 3 days after our 3rd appointment (unexplained) where we'd been told we would start treatment in the Dec.

Not sure what made the difference really, but we did concieve on holiday so you could say we were more relaxed. I started my period the day before we flew and concieved the day before we came home ::) and during that time I did continue to take pregnacare vitamins but I also drank which I had been really careful about before. I had also had a couple of sessions of acupuncture in the 3 months before and generally, as others have said, ate more healthily and drank lots of filtered water too.

Good Luck!
Dawn x
 

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i think relaxation has a lot to do with it  :-\ i know easier said than done  ::) i think my last cycle worked because it

was my nhs go so i knew we didnt have to pay  :) so wasnt too stressed out about it and more relaxed  :) and i think

my natural bfp has happened because again i was sooooooo relaxed cos i had got what i always wanted  :)

i must admit it used to get on my nerves when people used to say JUST RELAX AND IT WILL HAPPEN  ^bigbad^ and i would

think yeah right with blocked tubes  :mad: but it really can goodluck  ^reiki^ ^reiki^ ^reiki^ ^reiki^ ^reiki^ ^reiki^
 

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I lost 2 stone, cut out alcohol, stopped smoking when i got my BFP!

 

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thank you very much. it struck me getting answers "from the horses' mouths" (sorry ladies but you know what i mean!) was the answer rather than sitting around discussing treatment schedules.

Re relaxing, i can see this would help those who don't ovulate naturally - maybe that why acup helps those ladies? (but I ovulate bang on time.)

Re vits etc i think i'm good on those and any blood tests etc show I am in the middle of the ranges for everything.

any other ideas? xxx
 

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You're right, I think too much stress might- in some cases- disrupt ovulation. But I too, like you, had completely normal ovulation, no disruptions at all, even though I was under a huge amount of stress on the run-up to our ICSI. I personally believe that it's one thing trying to reduce the huge stress when ovulation is disrupted (and that's more easily said than done, it's not easy to 'relax on demand'!). But it's a whole different thing to try to generally 'relax' during an IVF cycle, when one is feeling perhaps completely not relaxed, because so much is at stake.

In my case, what helped me (not with getting pregnant, but just with living through the ICSI cycle with my sanity intact) was accepting that all the feelings I had, good or bad, relaxed or stressed, were completely normal & to be expected under the circumstances. I allowed myself to feel what I was feeling, and never tried to stop myself from anything. So if I was feeling angry- which I often was- or depressed, or just plain overhwhelmed, I went with it & didn't push myself to calm down.

It was always very painful to me, let alone annoying, when people told me to 'relax & it would happen'... when it clearly could not, as my partner's sperm count is very VERY low. I still stand by this idea, that telling someone to relax is nonsensical, vague & pressurizing.

In the end, fortunately or unfortunately, things with conception are completely out of our control. We can do the best we can, but there's always a huge element of the unknown- be it luck, chance, things we simply don't know about, whatever you want to call it.

Good luck, and hopefully you'll get some more useful answers!
 

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We got our BFP 3 days after our 3rd appointment (unexplained) where we'd been told we would start treatment in the Dec.

Not sure what made the difference really, but we did conceive on holiday so you could say we were more relaxed. I started my period the day before we flew and conceived the day before we came home ::) and during that time I did continue to take pregnacare vitamins but I also drank which I had been really careful about before. I had also had a couple of sessions of acupuncture in the 3 months before and generally, as others have said, ate more healthily and drank lots of filtered water too.

Good Luck!
Dawn x
P.S We were unexplained and I did ovulate and I was also told a lot to 'relax and it will happen' which really didn't help me to relax at all ^bigbad^ however we went on holiday as a 'break' from even thinking about it all so who knows....
 

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I read the other day on here someone saying that their consultant recommended her dh cut out caffeine - until just before giving his sample, as apparently it wakes the little spermies up.

Well interestingly, the cycle we had that worked, we had gone to starbucks and dh had a huge starbucks coffee (and cake - the meanie as i was nil by mouth!!) just before he gave his sample.

Who knows if that's what made the difference?  i dont know but i'm sure as hell goign to make sure he does it again next time!!! ;D
 

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Hello

I had cut caffeine out of my diet and had been doing lots of exercise before my FET.  I'd also given up on the acupuncture.  The week before I had a good night out with the girls and I was lucky enough to be able to give up work for 6 months as I felt that work was stressing me out and not helping.  Something else which I did, which I wouldn't recommend was self-medicating baby aspirin following FET which I'm sure any medic wouldn't support without justification - I had 2 embies replaced and a few days later had a loss of blood, which I presume was one coming away and stopped taking the aspirin after that following some very stern words from my mum, but I was just so desperate to try anything and my clinic didn't offer any kind of appointment after our fresh 2nd IVF so couldn't give me any suggestions as to what I could do differently.  So now I don't know if taking the aspirin helped one to hang on or prevented the other from implanting, so I wouldn't recommend it.

Good luck

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Hi,

For me, I had unexplained fertility.  After taking clomid for 6 months without success my lining never seemed to get thick enough.  I read that taking a low dose of aspirin (75mg) helps to increase the blood flow to the uterus.  After 2 years of trying naturally, then 6 mths of clomid without success, 1 month of taking a low dose aspirin daily gave me my BFP.  That is the only thing I've done differently.  I try to eat healthily and am not a big drinker, but the aspirin is the only thing that I've changed.  All I can say is that it worked for me.

Although still early days (6w),  my consultant has told me to keep taking the aspirin. 

Good luck, I know how heart wrenching this whole process is.  I hope you get your BFP very soon.

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Just a thought re. the vitamins: we also thought that our levels were good and our diet was fine but we went to "Foresight" who specialise in "pre-conceptual" care i.e. they aim to get you pregnant and to produce the most healthy baby possible.  We had our hair samples analysed which checks for low levels of good stuff (like zinc) and high levels of bad stuff (like lead).  We were very surprised by the results (some bad stuff was off the scale!).  They then give you a tailor-made vit & mineral package.  Their results are impressive.  Take a look at their website (www.foresight-preconception.org.uk)

I also had 4 months of no alcohol (DH managed to cut down a bit too!) and accupuncture, and we conceived, guess where?  on hols....

Oh and I had masses of people (including the vicar!!!) praying for us, which I found the most uplifting and supportive thing that I have ever experienced.

I really hope it works out for you.  Whatever happens, don't give up!


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