[charliezoom]

Hi!

May be worth reading this!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm

LOL Charlie xxx

 

[Mrs Nikki]

Not going to allow myself to get stressed by this.  I'm a vegetarian, have been for 15 years and in that time have eaten a huge amount of soya but at the end of the day everything at some point is going to come up in the media with some doctor somewhere saying it can cause this that and the other........wouldn't it be nice just to be able to live........then again a perfect world - hmmmmmmmmm 

I'm going a drink a glass of filtered water now - wonder if thas safe?

 

[movinggirl]

Hi All,

I spoke to my nutritionist about this as had seen on another website (www.soyaonlineservice.co.nz) and also in Zita West's book, that soya could be contradictory when trying to conceive. Basically she said the research has only been done in animals or on a petri dish - so can not be immediately considered to be relevant for humans.

I am not convinced either way as yet.

M

 

[Mrs Nikki]

I saw Zita West on This Morning today - she mentioned the soya thing in passing but said something along the lines of not enough research has been done yet.

Moderation is the key I guess.

 

[Terri]

Hi all

I was wondering about soya as I've read in the papers recently that even a small amount of soya can stop you from getting pregnant.  A few years ago, my Consultant also told me this but I didn't listen as I thought, at the time, what a load of rubbish!  As a veggie, I use soya milk instead of cow's milk and am considering stopping soya milk altogether now. 

I did get pregnant with my DD (although not naturally but with injectables) and I didn't cut soya out of my diet then.    To be honest, I'm confused now and don't really know what to do for the best. 

Terri xx

 

[Marielou]

To be honest, this has thrown me as well  - I've been a veggie now for about 15 years, and don't intend to eat meat in the near future! I actually asked my consultant about it last week, and he said my diet is a lot healthier than many meat eaters, and that in his opinion, it wasnt affecting my chances of concieving. 
I tend to stick to Quorn more than Soya, or Tofu, so I'm not sure if this really applies to me.
However, the report also said we should steer clear of 'peas and beans' and I must admit to thinking 'whatever next'    I'm sorry, but how can vegetables be bad for you?
The Sun also ran the headline 'Veggie diet causes infertility' which immediatly made me worry, but it was about the soya again. 
I'd say to take this with a pinch of salt - if you do eat a lot of soya, perhaps switch to a different source, but to be honest, I personally think you'd have to eat a whole lof of soya to make a harmful effect!
Hmmmm better see what I've got in for dinner .... best not eat any peas!

Marie xx

 

[Ellie.st]

I am vegetarian too (have been for thirty years, and have absolutely no intention of changing now!).  Although I don't eat alot of soya, I do eat quite alot of pulses. The report I heard recommended avoiding soya and beans/peas "around the time of ovulation" rather than totally, so I think I will go with that advice rather than trying to cut them out completely.  It's all so confusing - can't wait for the next bit of research!!! Ellie.

 

[Mrs Nikki]

Moderation is what I am sticking too - give it a year or two and I am sure the media circus will say all meat causes infertility.

When I was stressing about everything I ate, drank, etc I was becomnig obsessed and me and DH were aurging all the time, now, the obvious things like **** (which I have given up) are fine to stop but I cannot help thinking about the constant worry and stress I am putting my body through - I could eat the so called total healthy foods for increased fertility and still not get pregnant as I'm obsessing and stress or go with everything in moderation and relax for a happier life.

Something that keeps nagging in my head is the fact that hundred of women become pregnant that take drugs, drink and generally party like there is no tomorrow - Obviously I am not going to do that but the fact that this happens and these women are relaxed and do not worry about the media frenzy on food keeps popping in my head, making me think why am I stressing so much !

Ok I am waffling and not getting my point properly across - sorry - but i think you all know what I am getting at.

Marie - I am like you and eat a lot more Quorn than anything else too (must say though (off teh subject slightly) that Quorn sausages are totally inferior to Linda Mcartney sausages, Linda's are awesome)

 

[suz]

Hi Ladies

Thought I'd reply to this being a veggie and that   I have given up listening to the media tell me what not to have blah blah.  Just go with what you feel is right.  I think it might be some butcher whose business is crap

I eat more Quorn though.  Nikkiuk and Marie have you tried Tesco's own fat Lincolnshire sausages YUMMMY

SUZ
XXX

 

[Mrs Nikki]

Suz I haven't tried them as a total Asda devote but will have to give those a try, thanks.  Asda spicy bean burgers are yummy and very spicey - no soya in them.

 

[nats210]

makes me wonder what the Japanese think to it all as Soya is such a main part of their diet.
I think moderation is fine.

 

[Mrs Nikki]

Good point Nats, I wonder that too now.

 

[Anabelle]

I noticed the report mentioned peas & beans..................that is such a vague statement.  Does anyone know if this is just green peas and the usual baked beans or does it extend to all peas and beans...........butter beans, red kidney beans, split yellow peas, green beans, chick peas,.....to name a few



Sheelz

x

 

[WKelly]

Just bought my DH some Zinc tablets and notice they contain Soya, is this a good thing or bad for his  , am worried now that i am pumping him with good but at the same time damaging him!!

Please advise if these are ok for him to take.

Regards,

Kelly xx

 

[Mrs Nikki]

Kelly I would go with the vitamins hun - I really do think everything in moderation is fine until they have some concrete scientific evidence.  I am certainly not reducing my soya intake at all and haven't done.

I know when you read things like this you panic as I do but I personally have delved a bit and I have zero concerns right now.

 

[Broodygirl]

Hi everyone!

I'm a vegetarian/vegan and I eat LOADS of tofu... I don't touch dairy, so there is always a carton of soya milk in the fridge and I've really been dragged thru' a lot of worry with all this bad press that soya had been getting.

I've talked to a lot of ppl about this including my consultant and a nutritionist who specialises in IF and no-one seems to agree with anyone else.

So - I've decided that enough is enough. What more can I cut out of my diet?

I mean... far short of running around eating grass and twigs (until somebody writes a paper on how bad it is for me

) there's not a lot more I can do!

SO! If I avoid soya for a few days either side of popping an eggie - I shouldn't behead DH's

. The rest of the time I have my soya milk and eat my tofu with a clear conscience.

 

[Terri]

Hi Ladies

I'm sure this is just a coincidence but I had to let you all know.

After much deliberation I decided to stop having soya milk.  I was really confused what to do because you read so much stuff in the press these days and just don't know what to believe, etc. 

Therefore, I really didn't expect anything to happen so I was really shocked to get a  about a month after giving it up.

Not sure if there is anything in it, but hey it worked and we are  .

I'm not saying to you all give it up because it could work for you, I just wanted you to know my story.  I did get pregnant with DD doing Ovulation Induction but still kept soya in my diet.  This time round I got pregnant naturally (apart from Metformin which I've been taking for months).

Sending you all  and hope you get  soon.

Terri xx