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Thanks Rachel - you confused me as you locked the old topic just as I was posting! 
Ronnie - He knows, I tell him all the time
I know it could still go wrong though so Im trying not to get excited but it will be soooooo cool if it goes through!
We already cleared out our attic and garage and have stuff in tubs which stack so that has saved some time. There is a fair amount of packing to do (which we will start after exchange) but it's all stuff we want which will save some time too.
If this FET sticks I will be 6-7 weeks PG when we move so I will be overseeing everything. My new BIL has offered muscle anyway so that's a relief.
Ronnie - He knows, I tell him all the time
I know it could still go wrong though so Im trying not to get excited but it will be soooooo cool if it goes through!We already cleared out our attic and garage and have stuff in tubs which stack so that has saved some time. There is a fair amount of packing to do (which we will start after exchange) but it's all stuff we want which will save some time too.
If this FET sticks I will be 6-7 weeks PG when we move so I will be overseeing everything.
My new BIL has offered muscle anyway so that's a relief.
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Morning everyone - where's the sun?
We went down to Eastbourne yesterday morning and was surprised at how much closer it seemed than at home.
Kyla, fingers crossed that everything really does pick up with the house move, keep pushing is the answer. Make sure you really are careful though - I'm sure you will. Get DH to collect all the bits and lay them on the sofa for you to sit and wrap.
Off to see Neurologist Consult re: heads now. Shame it was a bad day yesterday though, not too bad today.
Have a good one
Sue
We went down to Eastbourne yesterday morning and was surprised at how much closer it seemed than at home.
Kyla, fingers crossed that everything really does pick up with the house move, keep pushing is the answer. Make sure you really are careful though - I'm sure you will. Get DH to collect all the bits and lay them on the sofa for you to sit and wrap.
Off to see Neurologist Consult re: heads now. Shame it was a bad day yesterday though, not too bad today.
Have a good one
Sue
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We were nearly in a crash last night. We were on a roundabout when a car came rushing down the hill on our left (so breaking into our right of way) and flew on to the roundabout without seeing us. If DH had not slammed on the breaks (and skidding into the island in the middle) he would have killed us - he must have been doing at least 60 mph. Scared the crap out of both of us and we were silent the whole way to the marina. (For those in Brighton we entered the roundabout from Ovingdean - by St Dunstans - and they flew down the hill from Rottingdean). 
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Kyla
What an awful shock for you and DH, glad he was able to take action though and you are both ok. hope you are not too worried about your little ones, unfortunately there is nothing you can do for peace of mind to check at the mo.
Not sure it was a premonition but I remember when you said you lost your other 2 because you ran for a bus, i told you that my consult, said it is not poss to loose them that easily because he had know girls in 2 ww to survive car crashes.
Take care
Sue
What an awful shock for you and DH, glad he was able to take action though and you are both ok. hope you are not too worried about your little ones, unfortunately there is nothing you can do for peace of mind to check at the mo.
Not sure it was a premonition but I remember when you said you lost your other 2 because you ran for a bus, i told you that my consult, said it is not poss to loose them that easily because he had know girls in 2 ww to survive car crashes.
Take care
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Hi Kyla - Blimey! You poor thing. You must have been well shocked. Is your blood pressure back down to normal now?
Sue - Hope you got on OK at the docs. In case I forget, good luck for your info session on Wednesday. Hope you're sniffing on Thursday!
I've got my baseline scan tomorrow. Hope I can start stimming tomorrow evening...
Hi to everyone else.
Ronnie
Sue - Hope you got on OK at the docs. In case I forget, good luck for your info session on Wednesday. Hope you're sniffing on Thursday!
I've got my baseline scan tomorrow. Hope I can start stimming tomorrow evening...
Hi to everyone else.
Ronnie
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Morning,
Kyla – how you feeling now, just what you didn’t need eh!!
Ronnie – good luck with your scan today, lets hope you can start stims tonight.
Sue – you’ll have to let me know how you get on at your info session, I’m hoping mines gonna be 5 October, that’s as long as af stays away until Friday/Saturday, could do with it being 5th as dh is off from work then anyways.
Well, I was so busy in work yesterday so didn’t get a chance to come on here. Had a very tearful weekend, just felt really down, partly to do with my friend being pg and just all this fertility business, I always seem to go to pieces just before treatment. I’ve got counselling next week, not that I think it really helps but I’ll keep at it.
Can you tell me after ec do they pesseries or is it the injection, I’m not really worried either way but just curious! I’m also worrying that when they come to defrost dh’s sperm its all dead, dh has to have pesa so I wonder if they’d whip him in to get some more out if that did happen, think I’ll have to write all my questions down for my info session. I know a lot it is done in a group thing but do you get to see the nurse on your own as well?
Anyways better get on.
Love
Paula
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Kyla – how you feeling now, just what you didn’t need eh!!
Ronnie – good luck with your scan today, lets hope you can start stims tonight.
Sue – you’ll have to let me know how you get on at your info session, I’m hoping mines gonna be 5 October, that’s as long as af stays away until Friday/Saturday, could do with it being 5th as dh is off from work then anyways.
Well, I was so busy in work yesterday so didn’t get a chance to come on here. Had a very tearful weekend, just felt really down, partly to do with my friend being pg and just all this fertility business, I always seem to go to pieces just before treatment. I’ve got counselling next week, not that I think it really helps but I’ll keep at it.
Can you tell me after ec do they pesseries or is it the injection, I’m not really worried either way but just curious! I’m also worrying that when they come to defrost dh’s sperm its all dead, dh has to have pesa so I wonder if they’d whip him in to get some more out if that did happen, think I’ll have to write all my questions down for my info session. I know a lot it is done in a group thing but do you get to see the nurse on your own as well?
Anyways better get on.
Love
Paula
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Morning all
Thanks for enquiring about neurology trip - complete waste of time. My GP had said he may want to do tests or a scan, I was thinking that was optimistic, so went in with an open mind. Anyway, he asked all the questions how often, how bad, do I know what causes them etc (if I did I would sort it and probably not be here).
For most of the meeting I felt he was either bored or flumoxed about what to do for me. Anyway, I think he covered himself with the questions to check it wasn't a brain tumour etc. Asked me why I hadn't increased the dosage of my current med. told him it already makes me so drowsy - I have to drag myself out of bed somedays. I am lucky if I'm awake before 8. Sought GP's advice and said I best stick at this dose because I would only get worse.
So he suggested this other drug, writing to my GP to recommend it because they will have to buy it in from Canada. As for being safe while on IVF/preg. he said he couldn't comment/didn't know suggested I ask IVF team for advice. But they won't find it in their drug handbook SIMS.
I told him that I know some are hormone related because there is a rise mid cycle and def huge rise AF time.
He said that was for a prob for my other team to sort.
So came home, looked up this drug on the internet - side effects are sleepiness, drowsy, not alert as normal, weight gain ....... For preg women it said studies hadn't been carried out but in animals the offspring were born with defects, poof bone density, limb malformation, stillbirth ........
Also, found a couple of trials where this drug had been used compared to acu. The trials revealed that acu gave far better results and patients were likely to last the course compared to the drug.
So DH and I have decided I should not take this drug. Stick with my current med, which has been around 30 yrs and the acu. If IVF/preg fails and I hit a really bad patch then I can ask GP to trial this new one.
So, it was a complete waste.
Have I mentioned greenhouse - what a slow job it is turning out to be, it's what's kept me from here. It's almost done now, but pressure is on - because I don't want to be looking at jobs that need do when I am supposed to be sitting resting.
Kyla, glad you are recovering from your nightmare. You will probably shudder everytime you drive past now. Let's hope sore (.)(.) are a good sign, fingers are crossed. You are next on my list to get off this board think
Ronnie, hope you have come home with some excellent news and are already to start.
Paula, seems you are feeling and acting perfectly normal. You are bound to go to pieces on hearing your friends news and the timing with running up to the start of your tx. It somehow doesn't get to me because I get so busy running around making sure house and garden are so perfect, almost like an expectant mum wanting everything to be fine knowing that there won't be able to much afterwards.
After EC they are likely to use pessaries - not come across anyone that has carried out injecting. I shouldn't stress yourself worrying about DH's sperm just yet leave it to nearer the time and with the experts to decide what to do. I am only guessing but if DH's sperm are dead then they would rush him in, because they only have a limited window with you and they are not going to want this opportunity wasted. I so hope not anyway.
Of course I'll let you know what happens tomorrow, DH says we have to leave home at 7.30 eeek, I tried waking up at that time today. Likely to post Thurs.
At least the sun is out today.
Sue
Thanks for enquiring about neurology trip - complete waste of time. My GP had said he may want to do tests or a scan, I was thinking that was optimistic, so went in with an open mind. Anyway, he asked all the questions how often, how bad, do I know what causes them etc (if I did I would sort it and probably not be here
).For most of the meeting I felt he was either bored or flumoxed about what to do for me. Anyway, I think he covered himself with the questions to check it wasn't a brain tumour etc. Asked me why I hadn't increased the dosage of my current med. told him it already makes me so drowsy - I have to drag myself out of bed somedays. I am lucky if I'm awake before 8. Sought GP's advice and said I best stick at this dose because I would only get worse.
So he suggested this other drug, writing to my GP to recommend it because they will have to buy it in from Canada. As for being safe while on IVF/preg. he said he couldn't comment/didn't know suggested I ask IVF team for advice. But they won't find it in their drug handbook SIMS.
I told him that I know some are hormone related because there is a rise mid cycle and def huge rise AF time.
He said that was for a prob for my other team to sort.
So came home, looked up this drug on the internet - side effects are sleepiness, drowsy, not alert as normal, weight gain ....... For preg women it said studies hadn't been carried out but in animals the offspring were born with defects, poof bone density, limb malformation, stillbirth ........
Also, found a couple of trials where this drug had been used compared to acu. The trials revealed that acu gave far better results and patients were likely to last the course compared to the drug.
So DH and I have decided I should not take this drug. Stick with my current med, which has been around 30 yrs and the acu. If IVF/preg fails and I hit a really bad patch then I can ask GP to trial this new one.
So, it was a complete waste.
Have I mentioned greenhouse - what a slow job it is turning out to be, it's what's kept me from here. It's almost done now, but pressure is on - because I don't want to be looking at jobs that need do when I am supposed to be sitting resting.
Kyla, glad you are recovering from your nightmare. You will probably shudder everytime you drive past now. Let's hope sore (.)(.) are a good sign, fingers are crossed. You are next on my list to get off this board think
Ronnie, hope you have come home with some excellent news and are already to start.
Paula, seems you are feeling and acting perfectly normal. You are bound to go to pieces on hearing your friends news and the timing with running up to the start of your tx. It somehow doesn't get to me because I get so busy running around making sure house and garden are so perfect, almost like an expectant mum wanting everything to be fine knowing that there won't be able to much afterwards.
After EC they are likely to use pessaries - not come across anyone that has carried out injecting. I shouldn't stress yourself worrying about DH's sperm just yet leave it to nearer the time and with the experts to decide what to do. I am only guessing but if DH's sperm are dead then they would rush him in, because they only have a limited window with you and they are not going to want this opportunity wasted. I so hope not anyway.
Of course I'll let you know what happens tomorrow, DH says we have to leave home at 7.30 eeek, I tried waking up at that time today. Likely to post Thurs.
At least the sun is out today.
Sue
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Forgot to mention had acu last night. Seems as though it is going well. Still working on my liver/kidneys and energy levels - which he says are low. I already knew that
Needles in feet, lower legs 8 stayed in and 4 were in and out. 2 behind my ears but that is to help with head.
When I come home I feel kind of tired and sleepy.
Sue
Needles in feet, lower legs 8 stayed in and 4 were in and out. 2 behind my ears but that is to help with head.
When I come home I feel kind of tired and sleepy.
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Just came back from Bart's. Arrived just before 10 for my 10:10 appointment. When I checked in, the receptionist told me my appointment is actually at 10:20 - on my schedule they wrote 10:10. Never, mind, I thought, it's only 10 more minutes to wait.
I was taken to the scan room by a nice lady & was introduced to the doctor. He looked through my file & asked whether I was having IVF. 'ICSI' I replied. He looked confused whilst scanning my notes. 'Who told you that you're having ICSI?' he asked. 'The consultant we saw on our initial appointment.' I replied. He read the notes again, smiled & said 'It would help if I had your notes in front of me instead of someone else's!'
After all that parlava, they discovered that my lining is thicker than they'd like (5.8mm as oppoed to <5mm) so I had to have a blood test to determine whether I can start stimming tonight or if I have to carry on sniffing for another week!
I really hate not knowing where I stand.
Sorry, rant over!
Sue - can your acu help you with your headaches? Or an osteopath?
Ronnie
Just came back from Bart's. Arrived just before 10 for my 10:10 appointment. When I checked in, the receptionist told me my appointment is actually at 10:20 - on my schedule they wrote 10:10. Never, mind, I thought, it's only 10 more minutes to wait.
I was taken to the scan room by a nice lady & was introduced to the doctor. He looked through my file & asked whether I was having IVF. 'ICSI' I replied. He looked confused whilst scanning my notes. 'Who told you that you're having ICSI?' he asked. 'The consultant we saw on our initial appointment.' I replied. He read the notes again, smiled & said 'It would help if I had your notes in front of me instead of someone else's!'
After all that parlava, they discovered that my lining is thicker than they'd like (5.8mm as oppoed to <5mm) so I had to have a blood test to determine whether I can start stimming tonight or if I have to carry on sniffing for another week!
I really hate not knowing where I stand.
Sorry, rant over!
Sue - can your acu help you with your headaches? Or an osteopath?
Ronnie
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Ronnie
Oh no what more fuss, if they can't get the time right - they could at least get the right notes - really instills confidence in you doesn't it?
Lets hope that get the right eggs all that together.
Sorry to hear that the scan didn't go as planned. Hopefully it just means you have to sniff for an extra day or two (because you are almost there) and not another week. Fine line needs to be drawn here because it can become to thin!!!!!!! Presumably they will phone you with the decision. Assuming they get the right notes, results, phoned number etc
Ronnie - I wouldn't really call it a rant, more just stress relief, specially in view of the organisation it takes to get ourselves up there along with all the hopes of what is too come.
Yes the acu guy thinks he can help with my head, I must admit I saw a difference when he was on hols for 2 wks couple of weeks back. So fingers crossed. They are heaps better since I got myself allergy tested and have cut all food from my diet.
He says that is why he doesn't specialise unlike some acu's who go into treating only IF etc, because he would rather look at whole person and treat all symptoms. He thinks all my probs are connected at one root,
Waste of time indeed - especially as we were in throes of greenhouse building and took time out especially - travelled to Hastings. I think he felt drugs were suitable for me and it got me off his list, but can't believe it is down to IVF team to justify the safeness of them - surely that's not their job to know about drugs for other conditions really, especially as he said they can't just look in the book. Not going to mention them as I am not planning on taking them, seems like another hassle. Even if IVF team okayed them not sure I want to with those side effects.
Just makes you wonder doesn't it. When I told my acu guy he said and you don't want to know what he is on per hour.
Anyway enough of me again
Take care of yourself Ronnie and I try not to get too stressed about this, it will all come right in the end.
I think a few of us have a big week this week. Ronnie today, me tomorrow, Leanne Thurs. What day do you test Kyla? Paula starting Fri/Sat?
Sue
Oh no what more fuss, if they can't get the time right - they could at least get the right notes - really instills confidence in you doesn't it?
Lets hope that get the right eggs all that together.
Sorry to hear that the scan didn't go as planned. Hopefully it just means you have to sniff for an extra day or two (because you are almost there) and not another week. Fine line needs to be drawn here because it can become to thin!!!!!!! Presumably they will phone you with the decision. Assuming they get the right notes, results, phoned number etc
Ronnie - I wouldn't really call it a rant, more just stress relief, specially in view of the organisation it takes to get ourselves up there along with all the hopes of what is too come.
Yes the acu guy thinks he can help with my head, I must admit I saw a difference when he was on hols for 2 wks couple of weeks back. So fingers crossed. They are heaps better since I got myself allergy tested and have cut all food from my diet.
He says that is why he doesn't specialise unlike some acu's who go into treating only IF etc, because he would rather look at whole person and treat all symptoms. He thinks all my probs are connected at one root,
Waste of time indeed - especially as we were in throes of greenhouse building and took time out especially - travelled to Hastings. I think he felt drugs were suitable for me and it got me off his list, but can't believe it is down to IVF team to justify the safeness of them - surely that's not their job to know about drugs for other conditions really, especially as he said they can't just look in the book. Not going to mention them as I am not planning on taking them, seems like another hassle. Even if IVF team okayed them not sure I want to with those side effects.
Just makes you wonder doesn't it. When I told my acu guy he said and you don't want to know what he is on per hour.
Anyway enough of me again
Take care of yourself Ronnie and I try not to get too stressed about this, it will all come right in the end.
I think a few of us have a big week this week. Ronnie today, me tomorrow, Leanne Thurs. What day do you test Kyla? Paula starting Fri/Sat?
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Hi Sue
If the consultant can't find out personally whether a drug is suitable for your needs, then he shouldn't be prescribing them to you. More importantly, what if you believed him & started taking them & they interfered with your tx? That's too scary even to think about. Sounds like he shouldn't be in the job if he can't be bothered!
I much prefer alternative medicines, as I find that in western medicines, they tend to mask the symptons rather than treat the cause. But that's just my opinion!
The hospital actually called me back..yippee!!! Unfortunately I have to sniff for yet another week. Having said that, it's actually worked out better for me, as I have to be away from home for a couple of days (work but pleasure work!!) & also as a birthday treat from dh, I've put my name down for a singing weekend in Alfriston & I thought I may have to cancel due to EC week but I can go now (can you still sense my disappointment)
Let me know how you get on tomorrow.
Good luck everyone else who's got scans/tests coming up this week.
Ronnie
If the consultant can't find out personally whether a drug is suitable for your needs, then he shouldn't be prescribing them to you. More importantly, what if you believed him & started taking them & they interfered with your tx? That's too scary even to think about. Sounds like he shouldn't be in the job if he can't be bothered!
I much prefer alternative medicines, as I find that in western medicines, they tend to mask the symptons rather than treat the cause. But that's just my opinion!
The hospital actually called me back..yippee!!! Unfortunately I have to sniff for yet another week. Having said that, it's actually worked out better for me, as I have to be away from home for a couple of days (work but pleasure work!!) & also as a birthday treat from dh, I've put my name down for a singing weekend in Alfriston & I thought I may have to cancel due to EC week but I can go now (can you still sense my disappointment
)Let me know how you get on tomorrow.
Good luck everyone else who's got scans/tests coming up this week.
Ronnie
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Ronnie – sorry you had a rotten time, lets hope that the blood test confirms you can start stimms, how long have you been sniffing for?
Sue – I think it might have been you that asked if I start Fri/Sat, the answer is no, I’m just waiting for AF to arrive so I can make my app for the info session.
Oh well off home now, speak to you all tomorrow.
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Sue – I think it might have been you that asked if I start Fri/Sat, the answer is no, I’m just waiting for AF to arrive so I can make my app for the info session.
Oh well off home now, speak to you all tomorrow.
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Ronnie
Sorry that you are to be delayed a week - but hey looking on the positive side as you say it works out nicely for you and fits in. My friend always says that there is a reason for everything we just can't see it at the time, still can't see it though when my tx goes wrong. Guess she would be saying that to you too.
Enjoy your stay in Alfriston it is a beautiful place to go. All olde worlde.
It is worrying that he didn't know whether the drug was any good for me - like I said passing the buck. if he doesn't know and can't find out, not sure how the IVF team would. Seems they have enough probs finding the right notes for the right patient.
I totally agree with you on the alternative med front. It does seem the way these days with Docs that they don't know how to treat you or what is wrong with you. It is easier to get you off the waiting list and to be seen to be doing something by prescribing a drug which masks the cause, in the hope that you will go away because it has made you "better". I only went to the GP in desparation because they were so bad and I had hit an all time low. Still better not knock them too much, I think we need them and their drugs at the mo.
Paula when I said starting Fri/Sat I meant AF
I'll probably be back tomorrow with a rant - be warned - first one is DH says we have to leave home at 7.30.
Everyone have a good evening.
Sue
Sorry that you are to be delayed a week - but hey looking on the positive side as you say it works out nicely for you and fits in. My friend always says that there is a reason for everything we just can't see it at the time, still can't see it though when my tx goes wrong. Guess she would be saying that to you too.
Enjoy your stay in Alfriston it is a beautiful place to go. All olde worlde.
It is worrying that he didn't know whether the drug was any good for me - like I said passing the buck. if he doesn't know and can't find out, not sure how the IVF team would. Seems they have enough probs finding the right notes for the right patient.
I totally agree with you on the alternative med front. It does seem the way these days with Docs that they don't know how to treat you or what is wrong with you. It is easier to get you off the waiting list and to be seen to be doing something by prescribing a drug which masks the cause, in the hope that you will go away because it has made you "better". I only went to the GP in desparation because they were so bad and I had hit an all time low. Still better not knock them too much, I think we need them and their drugs at the mo.
Paula when I said starting Fri/Sat I meant AF
I'll probably be back tomorrow with a rant - be warned
- first one is DH says we have to leave home at 7.30.Everyone have a good evening.
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Sue - Good luck tomorrow. Fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly! Make sure you go & see the nurse afterwards just to check out the prescription & that they haven't put you on a higher dose without telling you or that you have to have baby aspirin.
What time is your appointment?
I have to be in Epsom by 10 o'clock for a work meeting so I'll be thinking of you when I'm stuck on the M25!!
I agree with your friend's saying on most things. Bu I still can't see the reason for losing our fur baby. DH reckoned it was to make way for a 'real' baby. But what happened if tx doesn't work? Would his lose be all for nothing? Why can't both exist happily together? (do you think the drugs are making me go all ga ga)
Paula - Hope your AF arrives soon!
Ronnie
What time is your appointment?
I have to be in Epsom by 10 o'clock for a work meeting so I'll be thinking of you when I'm stuck on the M25!!
I agree with your friend's saying on most things. Bu I still can't see the reason for losing our fur baby. DH reckoned it was to make way for a 'real' baby. But what happened if tx doesn't work? Would his lose be all for nothing? Why can't both exist happily together? (do you think the drugs are making me go all ga ga
)Paula - Hope your AF arrives soon!
Ronnie
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Ronnie - I had to sniff (well inject in the end) for three weeks anyway - there wasnt room in the schedule for me to do two weeks. Preferred it that way as at least I knew I would most likely be on track by then.
Sounds like your Dr just read the wrong note - or were you unhappy? It's weird for me as I have had nearly all good experiences with them and then I read on here people down on the clinic and I wonder why I get good treatment? I have to say they have always called me back when they said too.
Its such a shame your kitty didnt come back. {{{HUGS}}}
Sue - Ugh! What a wasted appointment. Sounds like acu is the way to go for you then and to stick to your current meds - nasty side effects from the new drug are a definate turn-off. I also heard that Reflexology can be good for headaches. Did you ever look into that?
Paula - Definately pessaries! Either ''passage'' depending on your preference although I think they have to be done rectally the night before ET so you're not messy
Still hanging in here - not too long to go now until I test. Looked at vans and packing material last night for our move so we can start to get sorted. Almost getting excited now - dont want to get my hopes up there though. It will be weird to drive away from here and not come back though!
Sounds like your Dr just read the wrong note - or were you unhappy? It's weird for me as I have had nearly all good experiences with them and then I read on here people down on the clinic and I wonder why I get good treatment? I have to say they have always called me back when they said too.Its such a shame your kitty didnt come back. {{{HUGS}}}
Sue - Ugh! What a wasted appointment. Sounds like acu is the way to go for you then and to stick to your current meds - nasty side effects from the new drug are a definate turn-off. I also heard that Reflexology can be good for headaches. Did you ever look into that?
Paula - Definately pessaries! Either ''passage'' depending on your preference although I think they have to be done rectally the night before ET so you're not messy
Still hanging in here - not too long to go now until I test. Looked at vans and packing material last night for our move so we can start to get sorted. Almost getting excited now - dont want to get my hopes up there though. It will be weird to drive away from here and not come back though!
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