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how are you doing, how is the process going? I've been notified that our clinic is going to open soon, so hopefully we will be moving forward with our program.
The couple wrote me that they called that clinic , talked to coordinators (every time different for some reason) and every time were promised to be sent the protocol. I can only imagine how frustrating the situation is. On one of the webinars ivmed's embryologist explained their bio material chip system, which leaves us without worries of a possibility of a mix up
 

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@ Dianella - amazing news x
 

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miamiamo said:
@ Dianella - amazing news x
Thank you so much!!! we are so happy, they started stimulating our donor already! sooo the egg retrieval will take place next week. Last time she had 29 eggs retrieved, I think it's an amazing result! so excited and afraid at the same time.

I wonder if DavidsonK is on his epic detour, haven't heard from him for so long :'(
 

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Dianella said:
miamiamo said:
@ Dianella - amazing news x
Thank you so much!!! we are so happy, they started stimulating our donor already! sooo the egg retrieval will take place next week. Last time she had 29 eggs retrieved, I think it's an amazing result! so excited and afraid at the same time.

I wonder if DavidsonK is on his epic detour, haven't heard from him for so long :'(
amazing numbers, it proves they have healthy and young donors.
 

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Hello Everyone:

We have been trying to commence overseas surrogacy (with DE) for around a year. We are looking at signing with Lotus.

Finally, things have begun moving again, but we have immediately hit a snag.

DH's sperm is of low motility. In the past, we used ICSI without a problem. Lotus says we must undergo a PGD test in order to go ahead with transfer. Obviously, in order to have embryos tested, we need to commence a cycle. This seems like a terribly expensive way to find out that DH's sperm is not viable. Yes, we understand fertility is a costly business (we've already paid $$$$$$ over the years!) I am wondering if anyone else here has experienced this PGD hurdle? What was your experience with it? Did you continue on with the cycle?

Thanks,

DB x



 

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miamiamo said:
Dianella said:
miamiamo said:
@ Dianella - amazing news x
Thank you so much!!! we are so happy, they started stimulating our donor already! sooo the egg retrieval will take place next week. Last time she had 29 eggs retrieved, I think it's an amazing result! so excited and afraid at the same time.

I wonder if DavidsonK is on his epic detour, haven't heard from him for so long :'(
amazing numbers, it proves they have healthy and young donors.
I also want to know some updates from DavidsonK, hope everything is OK with them.
 

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I came across the info that I think it might be important for some who are considering Ukraine: Ukraine will close its boarders for foreigners for one month starting from 1st Sep 2020 cos of increasing number of COVID cases.
 

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Hi, ladies.
OMG, so bad news that Ukraine is closing its borders again... By the way, I am very sorry for bringing this up here, but I guess this kind of information might be useful for those of us considering surrogacy in Ukraine. A couple of close friends arrived from Kiev some weeks ago with their baby and we got really shocked to know that their Ukrainian surrogate mother was a heavy smoker and that was probably the reason the baby was born very premature and sick. They met their surrogate mother several times in Kiev and told us that she always had an unpleasant strong smell of cigarettes and alcohol. On top of that, they managed to find some pictures of her and, in most of them, she holds a cigarette and a glass of some drink. They have also checked when the pictures were taken and found that she was already pregnant with their baby in some of them. They told us that they went to their coordinator and reported the situation, but she did not give them the slightest attention. Instead, she hinted that they already had what they wanted and she could not talk with them anymore, as she was very busy with other couples. Before meeting their surrogate mother, my friend wanted another baby to complete her family but, after such a horrific experience at Biotexcom, she changed her mind. While in Ukraine, they met some other couples with their babies and it seems that this clinic is the cheapest one because its surrogate mothers are paid less, and the downside seems to be that they do not select candidates as well as they claim. So, I guess the lesson here would be go to a clinic that allows you to meet your surrogate mother, or at least skype with her, before starting the treatment and, according to my friend, "never, ever, go to this clinic of horrors called Biotexcom". Ah, their baby is currently under the care of several specialists at a very good hospital and we all hope she will not have major sequels. xxoo                               
 

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thank you for sharing, I wish their baby will be healthy and strong.
 

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hi all,

I hope you are all keeping well.

Is there a test, perhaps in the first trimester to make sure that the embryo transferred to the SM is the 'right' one, with the IPs genetic material? With all the mix up stories you hear (as rare as they might be), we just want to make sure that the correct procedure gets followed and will give us some peace of mind :). Any thoughts please?

Thank you!
 

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Hi, ladies.
OMG, so bad news that Ukraine is closing its borders again... By the way, I am very sorry for bringing this up here, but I guess this kind of information might be useful for those of us considering surrogacy in Ukraine. A couple of close friends arrived from Kiev some weeks ago with their baby and we got really shocked to know that their Ukrainian surrogate mother was a heavy smoker and that was probably the reason the baby was born very premature and sick. They met their surrogate mother several times in Kiev and told us that she always had an unpleasant strong smell of cigarettes and alcohol. On top of that, they managed to find some pictures of her and, in most of them, she holds a cigarette and a glass of some drink. They have also checked when the pictures were taken and found that she was already pregnant with their baby in some of them. They told us that they went to their coordinator and reported the situation, but she did not give them the slightest attention. Instead, she hinted that they already had what they wanted and she could not talk with them anymore, as she was very busy with other couples. Before meeting their surrogate mother, my friend wanted another baby to complete her family but, after such a horrific experience at Biotexcom, she changed her mind. While in Ukraine, they met some other couples with their babies and it seems that this clinic is the cheapest one because its surrogate mothers are paid less, and the downside seems to be that they do not select candidates as well as they claim. So, I guess the lesson here would be go to a clinic that allows you to meet your surrogate mother, or at least skype with her, before starting the treatment and, according to my friend, "never, ever, go to this clinic of horrors called Biotexcom". Ah, their baby is currently under the care of several specialists at a very good hospital and we all hope she will not have major sequels. xxoo
Can I ask. Are you with a clinic in Ukraine? Or U.K.? What clinic have you chosen? Is this your first surrogacy journey?
 

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Hi Maudeoh,
Sorry for the late reply hun, as I've been quite busy with a serious case of cancer in the family... :'(
The horrible and dishonest clinic I have written about is BioTexCom (Kiev, Ukraine) and that was not my own experience, but a close friend of mine's, who is still traumatized and recovering from what this clinic has done to them.
Please, do yourself good and don't go to BioTexCom.
Good luck! :-* ^hugme^ ^reiki^
 

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@Want-a-baby - sorry to know about your problems, I wish all the best to whole your family
 

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Hi!

There doesn't seem to be much going on in this thread at the moment, but I will post...

We are in Australia and despite all the difficulties presented by Covid, we have managed to do a cycle in Kyiv. On our 2nd ET we got a BFP using a SM!

There's so much to think of and organise....but we will wait until the pregnancy has progressed further before getting too excited.

One thing we are really interested to know: what measure or dilution (?!) I can't think how else to describe it....how is HCG measured in various countries. In Australia, we aimed for a result of above 100 at 14 days post 5 day transfer. Our Ukrainian result has come in at over 600 at 13 days post 5 day transfer. The clinic says this is an 'average' result.

So does anyone here have any clues on this?

Thanks!
 

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awesome news, congrats! You might check out converters (if they exist) in the Internet, or it's easier to ask the clinic to convert to smth you are familiar with or give to the range e.g. min - max so you can understand results better. From what I remember (if Ukraine does not change yet) they (all former USSR reps) mark even blood differently, e.g. blood group is marked as 1,2,3, and 4. Ukranian clinics treat international patients so I might assume they are aware of these differences, and you won't be the first asking them for more clarification.
 

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Hello, Just wanted to introduce myself and reach out to the members of this group for advice and some support. I'm 39 years old and have been through some miscarriages, discovered immune issues and now exploring around surrogacy. It's all really daunting although not half as scary as going through IVF treatment and miscarrying again. My main concern and what I wanted to get an idea of, is how many of you out there are around my age are using your own eggs? Most of the clinics I've spoke to are positive about the prospect with a few encouraging to go for egg donor but although I'm not as confident with my own body to carry I would feel/hope somebody else could.
Anyone out there in the same position or been here before? x
 
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